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The Rebirth of Buick.........

420 messages,  Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 9:47 AM

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Re: I can't get excited... [lemko] by bumpy
Oct 26, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 26, 2009 9:43 am)


 
Here you go. You planning on buying all 25,000 per annum for the next five years?
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Re: I can't get excited... [bumpy] by steve_ HOST
Oct 26, 2009 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Oct 26, 2009 11:29 am)

Your image is broken for us Bumpy (me, anyway). Can cut and paste it but the site isn't letting their images get posted elsewhere I guess.
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Re: Not for me [cooterbfd] by nippononly
Oct 26, 2009 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Oct 26, 2009 5:48 am)

But can this really be a good thing for the "new GM"? Building cars here (higher-priced goods and labor) and exporting them to the Chinese market (lower-priced goods and labor)? That sounds like a formula for failure in the long run.
 
Really, it makes much more sense for GM to take the trend it started (with the GM-DAT purchase and 10 years of production relocations to Mexico) to its logical conclusion and start building all Buicks in China for export to the U.S. Not the other way around.
 
They could even go so far as to make it a China-only brand during periods when the dollar is too weak to make importing Chinese Buicks profitable.
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Re: I can't get excited... [bumpy] by imidazol97
Oct 26, 2009 (2:35 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Oct 26, 2009 11:29 am)

Here's bumpy's picture from a post a couple back.
 
Nice Buick!!!
 
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Re: Not for me [nippononly] by cooterbfd
Oct 26, 2009 (5:37 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 26, 2009 12:05 pm)

"......Really, it makes much more sense for GM to take the trend it started (with the GM-DAT purchase and 10 years of production relocations to Mexico) to its logical conclusion and start building all Buicks in China for export to the U.S. Not the other way around."
 
Well, a couple theories here. If (IF!!!) GM intends to keep Buick here and market it as entry level premium, could importing them give them a bap rap, as people in the US perceive that Chinese made goods are of a lower quality and lack the control of harmful chemicals (ie; lead paint in toys)?? Many people laughed a couple years ago at the thought of Buick being perceived as high quality luxury in China, but as we have come to learn, it's no joke. Perception IS reality, whether it's true or not.
 
Another loose theory. Could part of Hyundai's sucess in the past 12-18 months be due to the fact that people who could normally afford the $20,000 or so Camry or Malibu are now opting for a $16,000 Sonata in order to cut back some, yet still get that new car??? If so, could part of the reason that the new LaCrosse is flying out of the showroom (outside of it being a new model) be that a comparably equipped model is several thousand dollars cheaper than a Lexus or Acura, thus allowing people to buy new (and American), yet still cut back the payment somewhat??
 
Also, I'd assume it costs very little to ship to China these days. Think of all those EMPTY cargo ships heading back to China. I'll bet the shipping companies would like to start sailing full both ways
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Re: I can't get excited... [lemko] by srs_49
Oct 27, 2009 (3:19 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 26, 2009 9:38 am)

Call the Lucerne replacement a Park Avenue!
 
And there goes the image Buick is so carefully trying to craft . Here's what i think of when a Buick Park Avenue is mentioned:
1. Big
2. Bloated
3. Living room on wheels
4. Zero road feel
5. The kind of car my 85 year old FIL might consider
 
If Buick is really serious about reinventing itself, it needs to stay away from many (maybe not all) of the names from the past.
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Re: I can't get excited... [imidazol97] by andre1969
Oct 27, 2009 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 26, 2009 2:35 pm)

Nice Buick!!!
 
Good looking car, from the front at least. It's enough to make me consider going over-budget the next time I buy a car! And even now, every once in awhile I throw around the idea of trying to find a nice used/leftover new Pontiac G8.
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Re: I can't get excited... [andre1969] by lemko
Oct 27, 2009 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 27, 2009 4:39 am)

I'm starting to see quite a few G8s around here. There must be a lot of people who feel the same way. I think the G8 is the nicest looking Pontiac in a long time.
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Re: I can't get excited... [lemko] by ingvar
Oct 27, 2009 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 27, 2009 5:10 am)

It looks good and it drives good for it's price.
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Re: I can't get excited... [srs_49] by nippononly
Oct 27, 2009 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: srs_49 (Oct 27, 2009 3:19 am)

If Buick is really serious about reinventing itself, it needs to stay away from many (maybe not all) of the names from the past.
 
I will second that, and will add that naming a new Buick a Regal is a bad idea. They should just come up with something new and luxurious-sounding.

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