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421 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM
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I wasn't aware a new Buick discussion was here. Glad to see it. What's missing? Respect.  Well, in other ways are what we are talking about here. I miss a moderately priced full-sized car replacing the leSabre. The Lucerne does but seems higher priced with the 3800 and the replacement V6. The Northstar isn't what I want. I think I'm looking for a Camry/Accord sized car with full front seat option and a 4-cylinder, 6-cylinder, or a turbo motor. The Lucerne just doesn't make it for a replacement for my older car or as a third car. There's something missing. And I think it is what leSabre was in the era in the 90s when it was the best selling full size sedan. Evan a used Lucerne doesn't interest me. A smaller car with a 4-cylinder turbo might suit. I want something that's got room, gets greater gas mileage than 31-33 like the two current leSabres, but still is living room comfortable after 6 hours on the road to Nashville, e.g. The Hondas and Camrys I've sat in don't impress me as feeling good after 6-7 hours on the road. The Accord seats were especially poor and the Camry seats impress me as feeling good at first but becoming irritating later.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 23, 2008 3:56 pm) |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 23, 2008 3:56 pm) Take a look at some of these comments: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/19/spy-shotss-2010-buick-lacrosse-little-camo-pl- - us-interior/ If GM can mate Saturn and Opel, and Pontiac and Holden, then is Buick (Asia) and Buick (NA) a stretch?? Now, I'm not suggesting importing Chinese Buicks here, as I believe the NA sister models for ALL GM models should be built here, but the platform and engineering sharing should save money. Then, all you have to do is adjust for what engines are to be used where, as well as safety equipt. |
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 23, 2008 11:58 am) Ok, but you're coming out of an ECHO, I'm lucky to reach that in my minivan once every 3 years on a good day cruising; ditto my AWD Outback. So 28 mph in a rental that I had some fun punching was ok by me.
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 23, 2008 4:57 pm) BTW, did I mention I had an Echo in the trunk???
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Am wondering why you didn't mention the LaCrosse in your message. It seems to me that if you're looking for a replacement for your LeSabre, the LaCrosse is the successor to the LeSabre, while the Lucerne replaces the Park Avenue and Park Avenue Ultra. Although the gas mileage of the LaCrosse falls short of what you're looking for, it's pretty decent for the size of the car. Also, GM is giving such good deals on Buicks these days that you could buy quite a bit of gas with the savings on the purchase. Did you overlook the LaCrosse, or did you consider and reject it?
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 23, 2008 5:25 pm) We know that a new Lacrosse will be out in 12 months, and a new Lucerne is a couple years beyond, but I wonder what else is in store for them? A mid-size or compact CUV?? Something sporty??? A convertible??? |
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You may be correct regarding which models the La Crosse was intended to replace, but size wise, the LaCrosse is close to the Le Sabre. Maybe the LeSabre was more space efficient than the LaCrosse.
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 23, 2008 5:25 pm) |
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I'm a past Buick owner ('92 hand-me-down LeSabre), and I have to say that Buick has major issues with its image. Others have already pointed out that there are few pre-retirement buyers - and for good reason. My experience with a Buick was that it was a solid large car, big on passenger space, comfort, and very reliable (only problems I had with a car I got with 100k+ miles on it was when the battery went, followed by the alternator). But while it had a smooth ride, it handled like a tugboat. I'm not sure there's a car out there that would give the driver a more disconnected feel for the road. Steering was vague and the car felt like it was floating - not a good feeling when changing lanes at highway speeds. This really turned me off to Buick - I quite simply can't perceive it as anything but a sofa on wheels, and styling changes (inside and out) are not enough to make me want to go back. So what's the answer? I hate to say it, but I think there is no answer. GM has not given any fresh product to Buick that is not duplicated elsewhere in the lineup. At this point, GM either needs to start from scratch or scrap the brand. The tinfoil hat-wearing cynic in me thinks GM is intentionally killing off the brand, but doing so in a manner that will get dealers to give up their franchises willingly, rather than facing an expensive axe-job like Oldsmobile.
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