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Re: GM has released its [fintail] by nippononly
Sep 23, 2008 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Sep 23, 2008 9:18 am)

Or for a Buick, maybe the first Century
 
What year was that?
 
Oh, and BTW, if Buick is "the US's second oldest remaining nameplate", what is the oldest? Is Ford older? Oldsmobile was the oldest until it was canned, right?
 
As for GM's top 10 list, I thought it odd, yes. I merely included it in the commentary because it may indicate something about how important GM considers Buick to be in its grand scheme.
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Re: GM has released its [nippononly] by andre1969
Sep 23, 2008 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 23, 2008 11:06 am)

The first Buick Century was the 1936 model. It was created by putting the big engine from the senior models into the smaller, lighter body. Whereas the Special had a 233 inline-8 with 93 hp, the Century had a big 320 inline-8 with 120 hp.
 
I think Cadillac is the oldest US nameplate. It was founded in 1902. Ford Motor Company was founded in 1903, although Henry Ford did build cars before that. Buick was also founded in 1903, but I don't know which one was founded first. Ironically, Ford was founded with considerable investment from John and Horace Dodge. Maybe that's where the Acronym "F Over Rebuilt Dodge" comes from?
 
One other car that I think would be significant for GM is the 1939 Oldsmobile. First car to offer a fully automatic transmission. And believe it or not, it was a 4-speed!
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Re: What about gas mileage? [yanker] by steve_ HOST
Sep 23, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: yanker (Sep 23, 2008 9:13 am)

I rented an '05 LaCrosse a few months ago and got 28 mpg driving on 2 lane highways. I thought that was pretty good. 38 mph would have been terrific.
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Re: What about gas mileage? [steve_] by nippononly
Sep 23, 2008 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 23, 2008 11:48 am)

Me, I would say 28 mpg is mediocre at best for all highway cruising.
 
Is the time ripe for a Buick (and Impala, and Avalon, and...) with a small 4-cylinder turbo under the hood, as Lutz has intimated?
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Re: What about gas mileage? [nippononly] by cooterbfd
Sep 23, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 23, 2008 11:58 am)

Is the time ripe for a Buick (and Impala, and Avalon, and...) with a small 4-cylinder turbo under the hood, as Lutz has intimated?
 
Well, could we see that on the 2010 Lacrosse or the next gen Impala???
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Re: What about gas mileage? [yanker] by cooterbfd
Sep 23, 2008 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: yanker (Sep 23, 2008 9:13 am)

Buick would get a lot more consideration if they would just raise gas mileage figures by 8-10 ^
 
You mean like Lexus or MB or BMW have???? Yeah, right.
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Buick by imidazol97
Sep 23, 2008 (3:56 pm)
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I wasn't aware a new Buick discussion was here. Glad to see it.
 
What's missing? Respect.
 
Well, in other ways are what we are talking about here. I miss a moderately priced full-sized car replacing the leSabre. The Lucerne does but seems higher priced with the 3800 and the replacement V6. The Northstar isn't what I want. I think I'm looking for a Camry/Accord sized car with full front seat option and a 4-cylinder, 6-cylinder, or a turbo motor. The Lucerne just doesn't make it for a replacement for my older car or as a third car. There's something missing. And I think it is what leSabre was in the era in the 90s when it was the best selling full size sedan.
Evan a used Lucerne doesn't interest me.
 
A smaller car with a 4-cylinder turbo might suit. I want something that's got room, gets greater gas mileage than 31-33 like the two current leSabres, but still is living room comfortable after 6 hours on the road to Nashville, e.g. The Hondas and Camrys I've sat in don't impress me as feeling good after 6-7 hours on the road. The Accord seats were especially poor and the Camry seats impress me as feeling good at first but becoming irritating later.
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Re: Buick [imidazol97] by bumpy
Sep 23, 2008 (4:26 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 23, 2008 3:56 pm)

Sounds like you want a time machine. People don't buy cars to do that anymore. They buy Tahoes and Highlanders.
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Re: Buick [imidazol97] by cooterbfd
Sep 23, 2008 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Sep 23, 2008 3:56 pm)

Well, like I said, I had to take a kick at the cat.
 
Take a look at some of these comments:
 
 http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/19/spy-shotss-2010-buick-lacrosse-little-camo-pl- - us-interior/
 
If GM can mate Saturn and Opel, and Pontiac and Holden, then is Buick (Asia) and Buick (NA) a stretch??
 
Now, I'm not suggesting importing Chinese Buicks here, as I believe the NA sister models for ALL GM models should be built here, but the platform and engineering sharing should save money. Then, all you have to do is adjust for what engines are to be used where, as well as safety equipt.
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Re: What about gas mileage? [nippononly] by steve_ HOST
Sep 23, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 23, 2008 11:58 am)

I would say 28 mpg is mediocre at best for all highway cruising.
 
Ok, but you're coming out of an ECHO, I'm lucky to reach that in my minivan once every 3 years on a good day cruising; ditto my AWD Outback. So 28 mph in a rental that I had some fun punching was ok by me.

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