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421 messages, Last post on Nov 27, 2009 at 3:10 PM
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Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 26, 2009 12:51 pm) The Corsica was a coarse car and the Beretta was a disgraceful namesake for the fabled Italian gunmaker. |
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 27, 2009 5:27 am) Little to nothing, yes. It is obvious they are basing the new baby Buick on the Cruze. That's a bad start right away. I just don't see this as being the start of a resurgence of Buick, not even close. If nothing else, look to the complete makeover of Saturn that has happened over the last two years. And Saturn still has.......declining customers, and so few of them that the Saturn brand has been cancelled. Buick has less customers than Saturn had BEFORE its makeover, and the "rebirth" is based on much less than Saturn's was.
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 27, 2009 6:34 am) This probably isn't the way to go either, but if they're just basing this thing on the Cruze, then IMO they should badge it as a Pontiac. That'll give the Buick/Pontiac/GMC dealers a small car to sell, and, well, nobody really expects a Pontiac to be a nicer car than a Chevy these days, anyway. If Pontiac goes away totally though, I wonder if Buick would end up taking the same route Chrysler did? Once upon a time, Chrysler was a prestige brand, probably moreso than Buick, as they didn't do "small" big cars like the Buick Special/Century. Also, a Special was a lot cheaper than a Windsor, while the New Yorker was more expensive than a Roadmaster. Nowadays though, cars like the PT Cruiser, Sebring and the 2.7 version of the 300 really should be Plymouths. So, if Pontiac went away totally, I guess I wouldn't gripe too much if they just badge-engineered a Cruze into a Buick, to give those dealers something to sell. I know I shouldn't encourage the badge-engineering that GM does, but if forced to choose, I'd buy a G5 over a Cobalt, and a Torrent over an Equinox...partly because I've always been more of a Pontiac fan, but also partly because I think they look nicer than their Chevy counterparts. I don't fool myself for an instant into thinking they're better cars than the Chevy versions...I just happen to prefer the style. So I guess I could see a Buick fan choosing a Cruze derivative over the original, if looking for a small car. Still probably not the right route for Buick to go, though. |
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I'd like to think otherwise, because you'd think that all the pain,humiliation and stress of the past several years would be jolting wake-up call, but you may be right. Going forward, I'm more concerned about the risk that Washington's involvement may force the automakers to produce cars that can't be sold profitably. It'll be interesting to see how things unfold.
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 27, 2009 6:34 am) See, it's a statement like this that would leave me to believe that the "baby Buick" should just go away, never to see the light of day. I would agree, if it is based on the "Cruze", it's bad. But to base it on the "delta" archetecture that underpins the Cruze, is not. Otherwise, how does GM build a "baby Buick" and make money?
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 27, 2009 9:31 am) I'm sure Barney Frank, Waters, Dodd, Pelosi, and Reid all can handle business matters very well.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 29, 2009 11:51 am) |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Mar 29, 2009 11:22 am)
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Replying to: berri (Mar 29, 2009 5:33 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Mar 30, 2009 7:21 am) I don't think it matters whether it's a 4 or 6. If a Baby Buick is to be built off of the delta archetecture, then price it at 20K, and make it worthy of a $25K compaact car. |
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