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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [grbeck] by hpmctorque
Mar 21, 2009 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Mar 20, 2009 7:58 am)

The '10 Fusion would be high on my list, as it has the handling and steering attributes that I value, and is also very competitive in other areas.
 
I looked at the Taurus, but not real closely, since, as I recall, it was on a stand at the auto show. I'll look at it more carefully when I see one. It's easy for me to believe that the '10 Taurus is very nice, however. I'm disappointed, though, that roomy as it is, the 500/Taurus hasn't offered six-passenger seating as a choice, as the Impala, Avalon, and the '09 LaCrosse and/or Lucerne, do. I don't know if it's available for '10 in the Taurus or LaCrosse. It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, since I rarely need six-passenger seating these days, but I think large cars like the Taurus, which will replace the Crown Vic for many, should at least offer this choice.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [hpmctorque] by tjc78
Mar 21, 2009 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 21, 2009 5:39 am)

the 500/Taurus hasn't offered six-passenger seating as a choice, as the Impala, Avalon, and the '09 LaCrosse and/or Lucerne, do
 
Avalon hasn't offered 6 pass since '04.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [tjc78 ] by hpmctorque
Mar 21, 2009 (8:59 am)
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Yeah, I didn't know whether I was on solid ground when I included Avalon, but I didn't want to interrupt my email to look it up. Thanks for that update.
 
I know there's no longer a high demand for six-passenger seating in a sedan, but as long as there's some demand from people who prefer sedans to minivans and SUVs, it would give the Taurus a competitive advantage over the Avalon. As it is, I prefer the Taurus to the Avalon, and think it's a better value proposition.
 
Regarding the Taurus vs. LaCrosse, I'll have to see some 2010s on the road, and read some reviews, before deciding which of these two I prefer. At the moment they both seem competitive and appealing.
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Buicks sell like hotcakes in China by dbostondriver
Mar 21, 2009 (9:19 am)
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The Chinese are buying Buicks left and right. They actually rebage a Cobalt as a Buick and make loads of money over there. They sell a hatch-back and a Park Avenue over there and the Chinese cant get enough of them.
Buick is to China what Mercedes is to US. An OK car with great brand name.
 
What I want to know is what is happening to Saturn. Everywhere you go you here that Saturn is dead, yet you see commercials for them everywhere. They did not make a Sky coupe but they made a Solstice coupe. Is anyone buying them?
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [hpmctorque] by tjc78
Mar 22, 2009 (3:15 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 21, 2009 8:59 am)

Regarding the Taurus vs. LaCrosse, I'll have to see some 2010s on the road, and read some reviews, before deciding which of these two I prefer
 
From what I can see the Taurus will beat out the the Lacrosse in terms of space. however the Lacrosse may end up being the better driver.
 
As for six passenger cars, I see a day where they are no longer. The only few left are "long in the tooth" as far as designs go and it just doesn't seem to be very popular. Back in '03 when I purchased my first Avalon the dealer mentioned that she never ordered Avalons in six pass configuration.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [tjc78] by bvdj84
Mar 22, 2009 (6:18 am)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 22, 2009 3:15 am)

On the road down to Florida yesterday, I saw a black Buick Lecerne, tinted windows, black rims with a silver lip. It was very tastefully done. I truly liked the way it looked. The black really transforms the car into a more contemporary car. They didn't go overboard on it. It looked like something the factory would have made. That is key, if you do upgrade cosmetically, to make it look like its pulled together. I thought it was a hot looking car. It didn't look odd, like some Caddy DTS with 22's on it. lol.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [tjc78] by berri
Mar 22, 2009 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: tjc78 (Mar 22, 2009 3:15 am)

Unless Ford significantly changed the new Taurus chassis, I expect the LaCrosse will have noticeably better front seat foot and legroom. IMO the current Taurus is not a particularly friendly 6 footer car due to the somewhat cramped driver's footwell and spacing. Makes a good cab though with all the room they put in the backseat instead of the front.
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an ugly little squid by nippononly
Mar 23, 2009 (7:39 am)
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So THIS is the new "baby Buick"? Not sure the traditional Buick crowd is going to like this thing too much, is it part of the "rebirth"?
 
http://www.autonews.com/article/20090323/ANA03/903200261/1131
(registration link)
 
March 23, 2009 - 12:01 am ET
 
This small Buick sedan, based on General Motors' re-engineered front-drive Delta architecture, is heading for China -- and might appear on U.S. roads in 2011. It's the size of the upcoming Chevrolet Cruze, which will replace the Chevy Cobalt. One distinctive feature is the large grille, similar to those on other Buicks.
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Re: an ugly little squid [nippononly] by cooterbfd
Mar 23, 2009 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 23, 2009 7:39 am)

We've been discussing the merits of this little guy being built as a Buick. With Pontiac going "niche", I suppose the PBG group would need a compact car, but can they price it accordingly? I don't know. I suppose this is possible:
 
Chevy Cruze, priced between $13-17K (not including an SS model)
Buick "Special" (for lack of a better name) between $18-22.5K
Cadillac BLS $24-27K
 
Now, this would give all 3 groups a compact car, 3 distinct price ranges, and I suppose different engines (say the Chevy gets a 2.2 ecotec that puts out 190 hp, the 2.0 turbo in the Buick, tuned down to say 220 hp, and maybe a small V-6 in the Caddy).
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Re: Buicks sell like hotcakes in China [dbostondriver] by dtownfb
Mar 23, 2009 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: dbostondriver (Mar 21, 2009 9:19 am)

"What I want to know is what is happening to Saturn. Everywhere you go you here that Saturn is dead, yet you see commercials for them everywhere. They did not make a Sky coupe but they made a Solstice coupe. Is anyone buying them? "
 
Best i can tell is Gm will stop supplying Saturn with cars after 2011. Saturn is looking for a partner to sell cars. Not sure exactly how it would work. I know someone suggested that a Saturn/Fiat would be an ideal relationship but Fiat has already committed to Chrysler.....maybe.
 
Saturn's sales have been disappointing since the initial S-series back in 1990. I think the recent commercials is to drum up sales to make Saturn more attractive to a potential buyer.

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