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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [grbeck] by hpmctorque
Mar 19, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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"... I thought the sweepspear effect on the side sheetmetal was placed too high, which made the car look too stubby. And the portholes should be on the OUTSIDE of the hood crease, so that people can see them when looking at the side of the car..."
 
Hmmm, I was quite impressed with the styling of the 2010 LaCrosse that was on display at the Washington Auto Show. However, as I respect your views, I'm going to evaluate the styling cues you mentioned more critically the next time I see this car. My main disappointment with it was the weight, 4,000+- 4,200+, depending on whether it's FWD or AWD. All things considered, though, I prefer this new LaCrosse over the Acura TL (my wife's current ride) and Toyota Avalon.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [lemko] by dieselone
Mar 19, 2009 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 19, 2009 11:55 am)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it! That 3.8 V-6 is a gem!
 
I guess if you say it's white, I'd have to say it's black, cause IMO the 3800 is way past it's freshness date. What's weird is the 3800 in the Buick's can achieve impressive mileage, but in my wife's 07 GP even with the gingerly way she drive's it's never topped 25mpg even if it's all highway. I've logged many miles on late model Park Ave's and could get close to 30mpg out of it. I guess anything will get good mileage if it's geared tall enough.
 
My reasons for not liking the 3800 are: it sounds crude, it feels crude, and it's doesn't have much power for it's displacement. Sure it produces enough torque just off idle to be quick to about 30mph, but from then on it's mediocre at best. So it's peppy around town, but annoyingly under powered on the highway, but with all the racket it makes over 3,000rpm, I guess one might think it sounds powerful.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [nippononly] by cooterbfd
Mar 19, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Mar 19, 2009 12:42 pm)

".....No way, NOBODY can drive a Park Avenue aggressively, it's not capable of it, "
 
Wait a minute......Mine (an Ultra) goes good. One morning, at 4am (on my way home from work!!!) I was at a light w/ a Mustang GT. I wasn't planning on dragging him, but he goaded me w/ the way he took off, so I punched it.... and caught up w/ him. Had the road not gone from 2 lanes to one, and I not backed off, I'm sure there would have come a point where my engine "ran out of breath", as the 3800's do, and he would've pulled away, but up to 80, he couldn't shake me.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [cooterbfd] by nippononly
Mar 19, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Mar 19, 2009 3:19 pm)

So performance consists only of straight-line acceleration, eh? We will have to agree to disagree on that one.
 
In straight-line acceleration, of course, the PA would fall second to a great many different, fairly boring, V-6 family cruisers......now I'm not speaking of the Ultra, because didn't that one have a supercharger or something? Don't know the 1/4-miles for that one.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [lemko] by grbeck
Mar 20, 2009 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 19, 2009 11:55 am)

Any car that can survive daily use in Philadelphia earns my respect.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [hpmctorque] by grbeck
Mar 20, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 19, 2009 1:52 pm)

hpmctorque,
 
Styling is a personal thing, although the new LaCrosse is better looking than the new Acura TL (what WAS Honda thinking)?!
 
I still prefer the new Taurus...although I don't think the LaCrosse is ugly. It just doesn't "wow" me. The new Taurus does in real life...especially compared to the current one. THAT is a car that makes me want to switch brands, along with the new Fusion.
 
I even stopped at the Ford dealer last night to pick up a brochure on the new Fusion and Mustang. I have to say, the size and style of the new Fusion look pretty attractive right now, especially as the Accord keeps getting bigger.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [grbeck] by lemko
Mar 20, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Mar 20, 2009 7:58 am)

Whoever designed the new TL should go back to drawing Pokemon characters.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [grbeck] by imidazol97
Mar 20, 2009 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: grbeck (Mar 20, 2009 7:52 am)

>survive daily use in Philadelphia
 
Fire trucks seem to pose a big threat to cars.
 
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Re: Buick's problem isn't reliability [lemko] by imidazol97
Mar 20, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Mar 19, 2009 10:18 am)

In another discussion a poster asks about their 185K mi 1996 Toyota because it has an oil leak. The responder suggests they should buy a new Toyota because they're on sale for 2009s now.
 
Would that happen to a Buick? Nah. It's just well-broken in. Fix the oil leak and drive it.
 
I couldn't believe the WunderKar brand that should go 500,000 miles with only oil changes would be worn out at 185,000 miles. My times have changed.
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Re: Buick Tops Lexus In dependability! [imidazol97] by lemko
Mar 20, 2009 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 20, 2009 10:33 am)

Travel Roosevelt Blvd. and you're likely to see more wrecks on an average day than during a typical NASCAR race. The median is often littered with several wrecks. My girlfriend's brother-in-law from Connecticut managed to overturn his Subaru Forester on the Boulevard a couple years ago.

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