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Re: A post copied from 62 vette here.... [lemko] by cooterbfd
Oct 31, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Oct 31, 2008 6:28 am)

Lem, tell her I will fight her to be first in line for one
 
Seriously, the '99 Ultra has been around long enough (6 yrs). I'll give it to my nephew when he gets his licence in about 15 months. I WANT ONE!!!!
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It's here........ by cooterbfd
Jan 08, 2009 (4:22 pm)
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/autoshows/detroit/2009/2010buicklacrosse.html?- tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2.*
 
Any comments?????
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Re: It's here........ [cooterbfd] by berri
Jan 08, 2009 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 08, 2009 4:22 pm)

I've read speculation that they are going to price it like an Acura or Lexus. If that's the case I don't think it will be that successful. However, if it is in Accord/Camry V6 territory it may sell alright. I see some Malibu styling cues on it inside and out.
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Re: It's here........ [berri] by cooterbfd
Jan 08, 2009 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Jan 08, 2009 4:46 pm)

Well, considering that Camcord V6 territory is around $30K, that sounds reasonable.
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Re: It's here........ [cooterbfd] by nippononly
Jan 08, 2009 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 08, 2009 4:22 pm)

2 tons for the FWD, a 4200-pound curb weight for the AWD? Yikes, that's heavier than some trucks. All except the CXS will get a 3L engine with 211 lb-ft of torque to push all that steel around? They called the Five Hundred slow off the line when it was pushing 3600 pounds around with that much torque and displacement, and that was four years ago.
 
Is it a bit of a price shock to jump to a base price of $30K so quickly, and how does that align with pricing for the Lucerne?
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Re: It's here........ [nippononly] by hpmctorque
Jan 09, 2009 (5:05 am)
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The weight of the 2010 LaCrosse bothers me too. However, you don't mention even one positive about this car. I think the interior and exterior looks good, for example. The direct injection and 6-speed automatics are also leading edge.
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Re: It's here........ [nippononly] by andre1969
Jan 09, 2009 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 08, 2009 7:33 pm)

Good lord, 4200 lb?! That's about what my '85 Silverado weighs!
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Re: It's here........ [andre1969] by lemko
Jan 09, 2009 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jan 09, 2009 6:54 am)

All cars are too heavy nowadays. I'm pretty sure my girlfriend's LaCrosse outweighs my '88 Park Ave and my Cadillac DTS Performance feels like a Tiger tank compared to my '89 Brougham. Geeze, 4200 lbs? What does a 1979 New Yorker weigh? That figure sounds only a few hundred pounds short of my 1979 Park Avenue.
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Re: It's here........ [lemko] by andre1969
Jan 09, 2009 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 09, 2009 7:01 am)

According to specs I've seen, the base weight of a 1979 New Yorker is 3850 lb. I'm wouldn't be surprised if mine is still above the 4,000 lb mark. One thing I'm a bit unclear on is whether a/c was standard on a NYer or not that year. That alone could easily account for 100 lb or more. And I imagine the 5th Ave has enough insulation, padding, and other crap to pork it up a bit over the base NYer.
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"Re: It's here........ [andre1969] (lemko) by hpmctorque
Jan 09, 2009 (8:30 am)
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"All cars are too heavy nowadays."
 
That's true, but 4,000-4,200 lbs. may set a new record for a mid-price car. That begs the question, what will the next Lucerne and large body cadillac weigh?
 
My first reaction is that the weight figures are disappointing for a car that seems to otherwise be very competitive. However, let's see if the inside dimensions, trunk space and other attributes justify or mitigate the porky aspects before we pass final judgment on this new LaCrosse.

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