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Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host by euphonium
Sep 29, 2008 (1:26 pm)
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Stocks took a dive as well they should. After too many months hovering above real values, the market is finally getting real. Educated and experienced players are starting to prepare for some "buys", but they are not ready to take advantage until the market falls more.
 
Those financially sound companies will be rewarded with additional investment income, but sadly, most of those companies are overseas. Look beyond your nose for some really good buys after the election of McCain.
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host [euphonium] by steve_ HOST
Sep 29, 2008 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Sep 29, 2008 1:26 pm)

I'm over-weight off-shore as it is.
 
My day trader friend said last week that the DOW would fall 2500 to 3,000 points. He's about 1/3rd of the way there.
 
Lots of good buying ops, Maybe I'll load up on my margin. Congress will surely bail me out if it doesn't work out.
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host [steve_] by gagrice
Sep 29, 2008 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 29, 2008 2:17 pm)

Congress will surely bail me out if it doesn't work out.
 
Fat Chance Dude!!!
 
My 401K went down about $10 per point today. I am thankful I don't need it to live on. My neighbor that buys and sells old cars is doing good in the car market. Bought and sold a 1957 Chevy 2 door over the weekend. He is happy when he makes a couple grand. Bought an ugly 1964 Chrysler Newport for $600. Real straight body. Says he will have it running and on Craigslist tomorrow. He is real worried about his 401K.
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host [steve_] by duke23
Sep 29, 2008 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 29, 2008 2:17 pm)

Steve wrote
" I'm over-weight off-shore as it is.
  
My day trader friend said last week that the DOW would fall 2500 to 3,000 points. He's about 1/3rd of the way there.
  
Lots of good buying ops, Maybe I'll load up on my margin. Congress will surely bail me out if it doesn't work out. "
 
Steve, tell your friend be careful of what he wishes, cyclical bear vs secular bear really bites. Margin is a sword that cuts twice but good luck. tia.
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host [duke23] by steve_ HOST
Sep 29, 2008 (7:29 pm)
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Replying to: duke23 (Sep 29, 2008 7:19 pm)

He (nor me) doesn't trade on margin; that was my little joke. I'd rather have credit card debt than go down that road.
 
Ford is at a yearly low. Buy?
 
Ditto GM. Buy?
 
Cerberus has Chrysler. Also GMAC. Also an airline (Air Canada). Will they be jumping out of the windows this week?
 
Foreign investments were mentioned - South Korea is down almost 4%. Buy Hyundai?
 
Toyota is down almost 5% today. Buy?
 
The other option is to take the spare tire out of the Chevy, stuff it with cash and bury it in the backyard.
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host [steve_] by gagrice
Sep 30, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Sep 29, 2008 7:29 pm)

If I bought a share of GM at say $10. And they were to file for bankruptcy. Is that share worthless or worth whatever percentage of GM holdings?
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host [gagrice] by andre1969
Sep 30, 2008 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 30, 2008 6:21 am)

If they file for bankruptcy then you lose everything. That share becomes worthless. If the company reorganizes and is reborn from the ashes, they'll issue new stock that can be purchased, but the original shareholders are still screwed.
 
This very thing happened to me when K-mart went bankrupt a few years back.
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Sep 30, 2008 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Sep 30, 2008 6:21 am)

Probably worthless. There wasn't anything left of Enron for the shareholders after the banko. Ditto K-Mart I think.
 
Risky business. Of course, if you had taken a flier on Ford or GM yesterday, you'd be up 8% today already. Tomorrow you could lose it all.
 
If you think the companies are going to survive, now may be a good time to start buying on a dollar cost averaging plan.
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Re: Stocks will surely soar tomorrow morning, Steve host [andre1969] by gagrice
Sep 30, 2008 (11:43 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Sep 30, 2008 6:31 am)

This very thing happened to me when K-mart went bankrupt a few years back.
 
It happened to me with Excelsior Henderson motorcycles. I was sure they would compete with Harley. They were so much better. No such luck. When they went bankrupt they owed money. Local dealer took parts for some of his investment.
 
I thought if GM liquidated all their properties the stockholders would be inline for some of that. Is that what they call par value? Or is that only for preferred stock?
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Not when you have diversified your portfolio. by euphonium
Sep 30, 2008 (7:49 pm)
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