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Article Comments - 2009 VW Tiguan vs. 2008 Honda CR-V vs. 2008 Toyota RAV4

67 messages,  Last post on Oct 20, 2009 at 4:33 AM

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What is this discussion about? Volkswagen Tiguan, Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4, Car Comparisons, SUV

2009 Volkswagen Tiguan vs. 2008 Honda CR-V vs. 2008 Toyota RAV4 - So what's a utility-lovin' small family to do? Downsize. Full-size SUVs provide unmatched capability but their thirst may make you reassess your needs. Think compact utility vehicle. Think crossover. (more)


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#19 of 67
Re: UHH [sdc2] by jzocc
Sep 22, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: sdc2 (Sep 17, 2008 6:05 am)

hi...i am located in pa. what city/state r u from? i am interested in buying a 2009, v6 awd, sports model. i did not think the 2009's were out yet. did u order, or receive and pay? did your price paid included a trade in? thanks...
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okay i guess by myphillyvw
Sep 22, 2008 (8:18 pm)
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seems like the tiguan is the most fun to drive, has the nicest interior, and has more equipment but it loses because it's cost more??? isn't there a saying you get what you pay for? they didn't even mention the tiguans panoramic sunroof, dynaudio soundsytem, bi-xenon headlights with afs? i think it's a poor review IMO
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Why not include the 09 Forester? by phdhusky
Sep 23, 2008 (10:35 am)
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Why not include the 09 Forester in these comparisons. It is also based off a car platform and has been in numerous comparison tests. I believe a Turbo Forester is much better than the Rav-4
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Re: [cx7lover] by thegraduate
Sep 24, 2008 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: cx7lover (Sep 20, 2008 8:59 pm)

Yeah I can get in a pissing match, because I love them.
 
The hosts do not.
 
And I already know for a fact that you will not get 26(AWD is 26 if you didn't know)mpg towing 3500lbs.
 
Well duh, towing its max rating nothing will get what it is rated. That's obvious.
 
#23 of 67
Re: [kdhspyder] by cx7lover
Sep 26, 2008 (1:13 am)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 21, 2008 2:58 pm)

The market? Are you sure?
 
MAZDA COULDN'T BUILD THEM 200,000 PEOPLE WANTED THEM!
THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE DEALER NETWORK TO SUPPORT SUCH A DEMAND.
 
LOL!
 
THEY ARE NOT MAINSTREAM. GET A GRIP.
#24 of 67
Yeah how about the 09 Forester xt limited? by jefbak
Sep 26, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Where is the love?
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Re: Yeah how about the 09 Forester xt limited? [jefbak] by allhorizon
Oct 04, 2008 (2:14 am)
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Replying to: jefbak (Sep 26, 2008 9:05 am)

Thing is everyone has their own pet favorite, and their own personal circumstances.
 
In my particular and very personal view, there are only three true competitors: The Forester and Tiguan on the side of the extremely well-handling CUVs with an almost perfect package, and the RAV4 on the side of power in a straight line at good fuel economy, over all. You can guess that I would prefer one of the former two, and I am intrigued by the performance and modest real-world fuel economy of the Tiguan versus the known gas-guzzler turbo Forester. Alas, neither are available with manual transmission in this configuration, so strike them for me.
 
 Also, the Tiguan has an awful combination of frontal area times C_w for a completely new design, resulting in bad mileage at high speeds. Don't buy it if you tend to do a lot of highway driving.
 
My conclusion? If you can, don't buy a CUV quite yet, not until Diesel models have become available. A TDI Jetta Wagen, or in my case a TDI Golf/Rabbit, will do much better, meanwhile.
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Re: Yeah how about the 09 Forester xt limited? [allhorizon] by kurtamaxxxguy
Oct 04, 2008 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: allhorizon (Oct 04, 2008 2:14 am)

When CU and others tested the AWD Tiguan, they found it used more fuel overall than the '09 Forester XT, and was slower in 0-60 performance. This despite the Tiguan having a 6-speed AT .vs. the Forester's 4-speed AT.
 
For highway cruising, the Tiguan did better, thanks to its 6-speed that lets the engine cruise at very low revs compared to the XT.
  
However, the FWD version of Tiguan may do even better in terms of overall MPG.
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Re: [cx7lover] by sdc2
Oct 06, 2008 (6:21 am)
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Replying to: cx7lover (Sep 20, 2008 8:59 pm)

And it doesn't change you trying to justify what you paid over what I was mentioning for a fully loaded CX-7. Your comment was totally unwarranted.
 
Unwarranted? Apparently any opinion that disagrees with yours is "unwarranted". I just thought spending $32K on either one was ridiculous, but hey, it's your money. I paid $24K for my V6 AWD model.
 
fundamentals? The AWD is worthless. period.
I guess you don't live where it snows. I live in Minnesota. It's not a power and economy robbing full-time AWD system, but it's there when I need it.
 
The transmission is outdated,
A five-speed automatic is outdated? Gosh, there are a lot of outdated trannys out there then.
 
it's interior is bland, and uses some lower grade plastics.
What you call lower grade plastics actually have less phthalates to poison you. Seriously. People need to wise up about this. Not that I bought the RAV4 for this reason...
 
Wow it has that 269HP V6!
Yep, and it has been called one of the best motors in the world by several magazines.
  
Well guess what, I bet you don't use ANY of those horses getting anywhere near good fuel economy.
As with ANY vehicle, aggressive use of the skinny pedal will diminish fuel economy...duh.
 
The 2011 CX-7 will manage 22/30MPG.
2011? Come on...
  
And I already know for a fact that you will not get 26(AWD is 26 if you didn't know)mpg towing 3500lbs.
Again, duh. And yes, the EPA estimate for the V6 AWD is 26 highway, but I routinely get 28, and more conservative drivers have reported as high as 30.
 
The CX-7 can use regular and even on premium gas, the CX-7 is little more than $500 a year to run, goodness! expensive premium gas! Please.
It's true that these days the cost premium for higher octane gas is only about 5% over regular, but most people would be happy to save 20 cents a gallon.
 
And the CX-7 still doesn't have enough headroom, so I never did more than sit in one. I'm sure it's a nice car though.
#28 of 67
in a tie, both place the same by muser
Oct 06, 2008 (9:47 pm)
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why is the Honda ranked second and the VW third if they tied? Both came in second according to this rather subjective comparison of vehicles. Forester and Escape should have been included, and vehicles should have been comparably equipped.

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