Article Comments - 2009 VW Tiguan vs. 2008 Honda CR-V vs. 2008 Toyota RAV4

67 messages, Last post on Oct 20, 2009 at 4:33 AM

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2009 Volkswagen Tiguan vs. 2008 Honda CR-V vs. 2008 Toyota RAV4 - So what's a utility-lovin' small family to do? Downsize. Full-size SUVs provide unmatched capability but their thirst may make you reassess your needs. Think compact utility vehicle. Think crossover. (more)

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#18 of 67 Re: [cx7lover] by kdhspyder Sep 21, 2008 (2:58 pm)
Replying to: cx7lover (Sep 20, 2008 8:59 pm) The fact remains that the RAV outsells and outperforms the CX7 and costs less to operate. You personally have your opinion. The general market disagrees. Neither vehicle is a heavy duty offroader. When the RAV was compared to all the other cute-utes ( CX7 not included ) it beat them all. Despite your prejudice in favor of the CX7 not very many people are taking it seriously. And thats just the facts. In the end it's not a beauty pagaent, it's a business - where the only valid measures of success are units sold and profit. To succeed thusly the product that's best is the one that best matches the complete needs of the buying public in terms of room, performance, reliability, style and price. The RAV does that better than the CX7 thus it generates more units sold and profit. Replies to this message: cx7lover (Sep 26, 2008 1:13 am)
#19 of 67 Re: UHH [sdc2] by jzocc Sep 22, 2008 (8:32 am)
Replying to: sdc2 (Sep 17, 2008 6:05 am) hi...i am located in pa. what city/state r u from? i am interested in buying a 2009, v6 awd, sports model. i did not think the 2009's were out yet. did u order, or receive and pay? did your price paid included a trade in? thanks...
#20 of 67 okay i guess by myphillyvw Sep 22, 2008 (8:18 pm)
seems like the tiguan is the most fun to drive, has the nicest interior, and has more equipment but it loses because it's cost more??? isn't there a saying you get what you pay for? they didn't even mention the tiguans panoramic sunroof, dynaudio soundsytem, bi-xenon headlights with afs? i think it's a poor review IMO Replies to this message: chiefbongo (Oct 08, 2008 2:57 am) jimdrew (Nov 06, 2008 4:38 pm) dieselbreath (Nov 15, 2008 10:05 am) guillegh (May 01, 2009 5:35 am)
#21 of 67 Why not include the 09 Forester? by phdhusky Sep 23, 2008 (10:35 am)
Why not include the 09 Forester in these comparisons. It is also based off a car platform and has been in numerous comparison tests. I believe a Turbo Forester is much better than the Rav-4
#22 of 67 Re: [cx7lover] by thegraduate Sep 24, 2008 (6:37 am)
Replying to: cx7lover (Sep 20, 2008 8:59 pm) Yeah I can get in a pissing match, because I love them. The hosts do not. And I already know for a fact that you will not get 26(AWD is 26 if you didn't know)mpg towing 3500lbs. Well duh, towing its max rating nothing will get what it is rated. That's obvious.
#23 of 67 Re: [kdhspyder] by cx7lover Sep 26, 2008 (1:13 am)
Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 21, 2008 2:58 pm) The market? Are you sure? MAZDA COULDN'T BUILD THEM 200,000 PEOPLE WANTED THEM! THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE DEALER NETWORK TO SUPPORT SUCH A DEMAND. LOL! THEY ARE NOT MAINSTREAM. GET A GRIP.
#24 of 67 Yeah how about the 09 Forester xt limited? by jefbak Sep 26, 2008 (9:05 am)
Where is the love? Replies to this message: allhorizon (Oct 04, 2008 2:14 am) kurtamaxxxguy (Oct 04, 2008 7:27 am) thegraduate (Oct 20, 2008 7:17 am) kurtamaxxxguy (Oct 20, 2008 7:21 am) thegraduate (Oct 20, 2008 7:31 am)
#25 of 67 Re: Yeah how about the 09 Forester xt limited? [jefbak] by allhorizon Oct 04, 2008 (2:14 am)
Replying to: jefbak (Sep 26, 2008 9:05 am) Thing is everyone has their own pet favorite, and their own personal circumstances. In my particular and very personal view, there are only three true competitors: The Forester and Tiguan on the side of the extremely well-handling CUVs with an almost perfect package, and the RAV4 on the side of power in a straight line at good fuel economy, over all. You can guess that I would prefer one of the former two, and I am intrigued by the performance and modest real-world fuel economy of the Tiguan versus the known gas-guzzler turbo Forester. Alas, neither are available with manual transmission in this configuration, so strike them for me. Also, the Tiguan has an awful combination of frontal area times C_w for a completely new design, resulting in bad mileage at high speeds. Don't buy it if you tend to do a lot of highway driving. My conclusion? If you can, don't buy a CUV quite yet, not until Diesel models have become available. A TDI Jetta Wagen, or in my case a TDI Golf/Rabbit, will do much better, meanwhile. Replies to this message: kurtamaxxxguy (Oct 04, 2008 7:27 am)
#26 of 67 Re: Yeah how about the 09 Forester xt limited? [allhorizon] by kurtamaxxxguy Oct 04, 2008 (7:27 am)
Replying to: allhorizon (Oct 04, 2008 2:14 am) When CU and others tested the AWD Tiguan, they found it used more fuel overall than the '09 Forester XT, and was slower in 0-60 performance. This despite the Tiguan having a 6-speed AT .vs. the Forester's 4-speed AT. For highway cruising, the Tiguan did better, thanks to its 6-speed that lets the engine cruise at very low revs compared to the XT. However, the FWD version of Tiguan may do even better in terms of overall MPG.
#27 of 67 Re: [cx7lover] by sdc2 Oct 06, 2008 (6:21 am)
Replying to: cx7lover (Sep 20, 2008 8:59 pm) And it doesn't change you trying to justify what you paid over what I was mentioning for a fully loaded CX-7. Your comment was totally unwarranted. Unwarranted? Apparently any opinion that disagrees with yours is "unwarranted". I just thought spending $32K on either one was ridiculous, but hey, it's your money. I paid $24K for my V6 AWD model. fundamentals? The AWD is worthless. period. I guess you don't live where it snows. I live in Minnesota. It's not a power and economy robbing full-time AWD system, but it's there when I need it. The transmission is outdated, A five-speed automatic is outdated? Gosh, there are a lot of outdated trannys out there then. it's interior is bland, and uses some lower grade plastics. What you call lower grade plastics actually have less phthalates to poison you. Seriously. People need to wise up about this. Not that I bought the RAV4 for this reason... Wow it has that 269HP V6! Yep, and it has been called one of the best motors in the world by several magazines. Well guess what, I bet you don't use ANY of those horses getting anywhere near good fuel economy. As with ANY vehicle, aggressive use of the skinny pedal will diminish fuel economy...duh. The 2011 CX-7 will manage 22/30MPG. 2011? Come on... And I already know for a fact that you will not get 26(AWD is 26 if you didn't know)mpg towing 3500lbs. Again, duh. And yes, the EPA estimate for the V6 AWD is 26 highway, but I routinely get 28, and more conservative drivers have reported as high as 30. The CX-7 can use regular and even on premium gas, the CX-7 is little more than $500 a year to run, goodness! expensive premium gas! Please. It's true that these days the cost premium for higher octane gas is only about 5% over regular, but most people would be happy to save 20 cents a gallon. And the CX-7 still doesn't have enough headroom, so I never did more than sit in one. I'm sure it's a nice car though. Replies to this message: cx7lover (Oct 14, 2008 1:18 am) sdc2 (Oct 20, 2008 7:04 am)