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#1 of 7 Article Comments - 2008 Chevrolet Equinox FCEV Full Test by KarenS HOST Sep 10, 2008 (10:05 am)
Not an hour after my chat with Tom Williams, another driver of a 2008 Chevrolet Equinox FCEV as part of GM Project Driveway, he leaves a message on my cell phone:   "When I drove up to downtown L.A. from Orange County today, I got 60 miles to the kilogram. I don't know about you, but I love that."   2008 Chevrolet Equinox FCEV Full Test and Video
#2 of 7 $10B by morey000 Sep 10, 2008 (11:32 am)
Apparently, the total cost to provide the infrastructure to produce and deliver Hydrogen within a few miles of 80% of the population of the US is $10 Billion. While that may sound like a lot- it's the cost of one month in Iraq.   The taxpayer built roads so that car manufacturers could sell cars in the first place. Why doesn't the taxpayer provide the infrastructure for hydrogen, and car companies will build the autos?   At 60 miles for $5 of fuel (in a mid sized SUV!) there would be plenty of buyers. Replies to this message: pf_flyer (Nov 26, 2008 4:35 pm) morey000 (Dec 02, 2008 6:33 am)
#3 of 7 The future by cmaehler Sep 10, 2008 (2:17 pm)
Hydrogen is the future, look at BMW they produced a Hydrogen/ Gas 7 series car all companies could do the same, also stations can create Hydrogen on site out of water and to power the electrolysis system all you would need would be solar panels, just look at this article http://www.nrel.gov/hydrogen/proj_production_delivery.html. T
#4 of 7 Re: $10B [morey000] by pf_flyer HOST Nov 26, 2008 (4:35 pm)
Replying to: morey000 (Sep 10, 2008 11:32 am) Apparently, the total cost to provide the infrastructure to produce and deliver Hydrogen within a few miles of 80% of the population of the US is $10 Billion.   $10 billion sounds like chump change compared to the numbers we've been tossing around lately   I'm guessing that right now we have a few more important items on the to-do-list than to get a hydrogen delivery system up and going. Replies to this message: morey000 (Dec 02, 2008 6:33 am)
#5 of 7 Re: $10B [pf_flyer] by morey000 Dec 02, 2008 (6:33 am)
Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 26, 2008 4:35 pm) That's the good part. We don't need to do it today. We just need to 'say' we're going to do it. With enough confidence for the car companies to commit the resources to build fuel cell vehicles, so that when they go on sale in limited markets 6 years from now, they'll be filling stations available.
#6 of 7 How to get one? by bfreeman333 Feb 06, 2009 (5:51 pm)
After reading this thread, I began considering, how would I get my hands on one of these vehicles, seeing as I live in a more rural area of PA? I found the discussion of building a hydrogen infrastructure across the country to be quite interesting, especially considering that, even if I could FIND one of these vehicles near where I live, how would I get the hydrogen to fuel it? I've been looking into electrolysis and doing my own experiments to produce Hydrogen, so now I'm curious about how to go about purchasing one of these vehicles. I looked at my local dealer's website (Mike Kelly Chevrolet/Cadillac) and I could find the regular Equinox for sale, but not the FCEV trim... Could someone help me out? Does anyone know where in PA I could possibly find one of these vehicles for a test drive or something? Replies to this message: morey000 (Feb 10, 2009 3:17 pm)
#7 of 7 Re: How to get one? [bfreeman333] by morey000 Feb 10, 2009 (3:17 pm)
Replying to: bfreeman333 (Feb 06, 2009 5:51 pm) Sorry. You cannot buy one. There was a demo fleet, I think 100 vehicles, maybe 200, that were released in very select markets. The technology is about there, there's just no infrastructure, or as yet, sufficient production quantity that would make these vehicles affordable. (but, there's no reason why they couldn't be in the near future)   Making your own hydrogen, while possible, can be exceptionally dangerous. Not only do you need to produce it, but you need to compress it to very high pressures and then have all the storage equipment and fittings to get it into your car. I'm sure this wouldn't be cheap. It probably would be cheaper just to contact your local industrial gas supply vendor. You wouldn't refine your own unleaded gas out of crude oil, would you? Also, while you could do it with electrolysis, unless you have a very cheap source of electricity, this is not nearly the most efficient way to get hydrogen out of water.

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