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Replying to: lemko (Nov 28, 2008 7:32 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 7:48 pm) Yes, tarriffs are the same, but with all the worldwide competition out there, why are there so few cars imported into Japan???? Because the GOVERNMENT won't let them in in any significant quantities. Go to Bermuda and look at the cars there. You will find far more European cars there than you would in Japan. BTW GM DOES have cars that could be sold there: http://vauxhall.com/vaux/home.do?referrer=#vehicleTabs:NewAgila and: http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/vehicleentry?vehicleid=1
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 29, 2008 1:32 pm) Not at all. If I had not gotten $10k off the loaded Sequoia limited MSRP, I quite possibly would have bought a Denali, Acadia or Mercedes GL320 CDI. When a dealer gives me the line that a particular car is really hot. I walk out the door. It has to be a great deal or I am not interested. I have never bought a vehicle I just had to have. I have never found a vehicle that really turned me on. Well maybe a 930 Carrera. Then my practical side takes over and I get something useful. I have bought 4 new vehicles in the last 3 years. I have sold 3 of them and none of them are really what I want. When I say our choices in this country suck I am serious. When I think about GM going belly up it does not bother me. I am hoping some other companies will come in and I will find a vehicle I really like. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 29, 2008 1:47 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 8:38 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 29, 2008 1:47 pm) I guess my response is so what? There are hundreds of models that are not allowed into the USA also. Some like small PU trucks kept out with our 25% tariff. Some are kept out with crazy safety regs and crash tests. Some are kept out with emission laws that are designed to keep out competition in especially the high mileage cars. We are so far from being a free market here in the USA that we have no right to point fingers at Japan or any other country. Your own statement on go to Bermuda should make you see what we are not allowed to buy here. They have small vans in the rest of the world that get 35 MPG and better. Small very practical PU trucks that get 45 MPG. Much of those restrictions are a result of deals made to protect the Big 3. Even with all the protectionism afforded GM they are not able to make a profit. Let them DIE NOW. Not after we waste another $25 billion.
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 29, 2008 3:47 pm) |
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Replying to: bumpy (Nov 29, 2008 3:51 pm) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 29, 2008 3:56 pm) Yes, but those regs are meant to protect you and me. Even GM can't sell some of their own products here (Euro cars w/ small diesels). So, in essence those regs hurt our own companies as well. BTW, do you think Japan would allow GM, or any other company to build a plant in Japan???
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 29, 2008 4:08 pm) Why would we want to? It has the most expensive land on earth. The most restrictive laws. GM cannot make money here. What makes you think they could do any better if they tried in Japan. Now Japan is up against Korea and China. At least we have a presence in China. They are going to pass up our buying in just a short few years. There GDP has already passed Japan and Germany. India is just about to pass Japan for the number 3 spot. Your love for America is wonderful. Where were you when we gave away all the Electronics & appliances in the 1960s and 70s? Automobiles are the next to go. We should be thankful that we have some foreign nameplates willing to build in the USA.
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