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Re: Uncle, can you spare a dime? [gagrice] by lemko
Nov 28, 2008 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 7:48 pm)

Well, I'm the opposite. I love cars and only see trucks as utility vehicles. If I were to buy a truck, it would probably be the plain jane work truck with rubber floor mats and vinyl seats and a cardboard headliner. It would be a 2wd vehicle powered most likely by a six.
 
For me to even consider a Mercedes or BMW, I'd have to go all the way to the S-Class or 7-Series as they're the only cars that come close to the size and plushness of my Cadillac DTS.
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Re: Car Pool to Washington [lemko] by elroy5
Nov 28, 2008 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 28, 2008 7:32 pm)

The imports would be like forcing me to swallow a couple of cyanide capsules with an arsenic chaser with a spritz of strychnine.
 
Do you have these items handy? Maybe you should put them on your shopping list.
 
I also don't like trucks. I have one, for when I need it. I have been driving Accords (2 of them) since 91. One for 12 years, and the current one for 5 years and counting. If GM had anything comparable, I would have bought one. Not even a reasonable imitation. I've owned enough GM cars to know Honda cars are much better built. If you are willing to drive inferior cars, because they are so called "American", that's your unfortunate choice.
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Re: Uncle, can you spare a dime? [manegi] by gogogodzilla
Nov 28, 2008 (9:41 pm)
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Replying to: manegi (Nov 28, 2008 2:52 pm)

Sounds like you're describing Italy...
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Re: Car Pool to Washington [elroy5] by dave8697
Nov 29, 2008 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 28, 2008 9:35 pm)

The Malibu
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Re: Car Pool to Washington [elroy5] by lemko
Nov 29, 2008 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 28, 2008 9:35 pm)

Uh, I drive GM cars because I've had enough of them to know they are good and I have no need to look elsewhere. Twelve years on your Honda? Well, that's cool. My Buick Park Avenue and Cadillac Brougham are 21 and 20 years-old respectively and both still run very well. Heck, my Grandpop's 1989 Chevrolet Caprice Classic Brougham is still with our family.
 
 I've had a few Ford cars and they were average. I've had one Chrysler car - a 1985 Fifth Avenue - and it turned out to be one of my best. I sold it to my brother in 1993 and he's still driving it.
 
For all I know, a Honda can be all you say it is and more, but I just can't get past their looks. I really really do not like their styling - a combo of the bland and bizarre. Japanese styling just turns me off.
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Re: Car Pool to Washington [lemko] by gagrice
Nov 29, 2008 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 29, 2008 8:02 am)

Japanese styling just turns me off.
 
I do agree with you. So many Asian cars have that "Stink Bug" look to them. And they have huge blind spots. In cars I prefer station wagons. I like looking to the right when I change lanes to make sure no one has sneaked into the blind spot in the mirror. Same reason I prefer PU trucks and SUVs over cars. Though so many of the new CUVs have large blind spots. My Suburban was probably the ultimate vehicle for me. If it had a diesel that would get 25 MPG on the highway I would have never sold it. The biggest issue is resale. PU Trucks hold their value better than most any car will. At least up till this last Oil bubble.
 
Sadly the Big 3 have put most of their efforts into BIG cars, trucks and SUVs. This last oil wake up changed all that.
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Re: Car Pool to Washington [gagrice] by cooterbfd
Nov 29, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 3:57 pm)

Wait a minute. You just posted that the Toyota dealer gave you the best deal, and that the GMC dealer wanted top dollar. Are you saying if they wanted top dollar for the Toy, and were dumping GMCs you'd still be driving the Toy???
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Re: Car Pool to Washington [lemko] by cooterbfd
Nov 29, 2008 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 28, 2008 7:32 pm)

Believe me lem, if we allow the Big 3 to die, I'll NEVER buy another new car again as long as I live. I'll blow my $25-35K every 7 or so years on my Wildcat, and drive it forever.
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Re: Uncle, can you spare a dime? [gagrice] by cooterbfd
Nov 29, 2008 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 7:48 pm)

".....The only small high mileage car GM sells is built in Korea. The tariffs are the same for Germany as they are for the USA. Japanese have seen what we have and are not interested."
 
Yes, tarriffs are the same, but with all the worldwide competition out there, why are there so few cars imported into Japan???? Because the GOVERNMENT won't let them in in any significant quantities. Go to Bermuda and look at the cars there. You will find far more European cars there than you would in Japan.
 
BTW GM DOES have cars that could be sold there:
 
http://vauxhall.com/vaux/home.do?referrer=#vehicleTabs:NewAgila
 
and:
 
http://www.holden.com.au/www-holden/action/vehicleentry?vehicleid=1
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Re: Car Pool to Washington [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Nov 29, 2008 (3:47 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 29, 2008 1:32 pm)

Are you saying if they wanted top dollar for the Toy, and were dumping GMCs you'd still be driving the Toy???
 
Not at all. If I had not gotten $10k off the loaded Sequoia limited MSRP, I quite possibly would have bought a Denali, Acadia or Mercedes GL320 CDI. When a dealer gives me the line that a particular car is really hot. I walk out the door. It has to be a great deal or I am not interested. I have never bought a vehicle I just had to have. I have never found a vehicle that really turned me on. Well maybe a 930 Carrera. Then my practical side takes over and I get something useful. I have bought 4 new vehicles in the last 3 years. I have sold 3 of them and none of them are really what I want. When I say our choices in this country suck I am serious. When I think about GM going belly up it does not bother me. I am hoping some other companies will come in and I will find a vehicle I really like.

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