Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?

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#966 of 3958 Re: Car Pool to Washington [elroy5] by cooterbfd Nov 28, 2008 (3:44 am)
Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 27, 2008 8:41 pm) The cars are built on the same assembly line. While I don't doubt that the Civic sells at a higher price, the Aura and Malibu sell at a comparable price to the Accord. In spite of all this, the consumer still has 7 choices between the 2 companies in those 2 model sizes to choose from. I'm sure all those $99/mo leases that I see Herb Chambers Honda offering have a lot to do with the Civic's sales, as well as it's reputation. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 5:54 am) cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 10:09 am) gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 10:25 am) and 2 more... anythngbutgm (Dec 01, 2008 1:12 pm)
#967 of 3958 Re: Car Pool to Washington [cooterbfd] by gagrice Nov 28, 2008 (5:54 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 3:44 am) I'm sure all those $99/mo leases that I see Herb Chambers Honda offering have a lot to do with the Civic's sales, as well as it's reputation. The question is? Can GM offer the same $99 lease on a Cobalt and not lose their shorts when the 3 year lease is up? Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 10:09 am) gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 10:25 am) cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 10:35 am) and 1 more...
#968 of 3958 Tiny turnaround steps? by pf_flyer HOST Nov 28, 2008 (9:13 am)
Nov Auto Sales likely up from Oct Nissan back in at Chicago Auto Show
#969 of 3958 Re: Car Pool to Washington [gagrice] by cooterbfd Nov 28, 2008 (10:09 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 5:54 am) It's a 2 year lease w/ 20% down. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 10:25 am) cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 10:35 am) gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 11:00 am)
#970 of 3958 Re: Car Pool to Washington [cooterbfd] by gagrice Nov 28, 2008 (10:25 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 10:09 am) Put another way. Is a 2 year old Cobalt worth $12,000. That is what is left owing after 20% down and $99 per month. I don't think an Impala is worth that much after 2 years. That has to be a huge dilemma for GM. That and GMAC is not lending to every Tom, Dick and Harry that wants to buy a new car. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 10:35 am) gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 11:00 am)
#971 of 3958 Re: Car Pool to Washington [gagrice] by cooterbfd Nov 28, 2008 (10:35 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 10:25 am) My bigger point is that in "paper shopping" it becomes somewhat difficult to compare what the advertised purchase prices are. Replies to this message: gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 11:00 am)
#972 of 3958 Wake up people! by scape2 Nov 28, 2008 (10:59 am)
The Koreans and Japanese have been helping their auto industry for years with favorable taxes, loans and other government programs. U.S. automakers do not enjoy the same level playing field in Korea as the Koreans enjoy in the U.S. I fully believe the U.S. government should give the big 3 the money they need. However there should be stipulations. Invest the money into re-tooling plants here in the U.S., invest in new drive train technologies. Build the next generation of automobiles here in the U.S. Start a new revolution in car building and technologies. Replies to this message: tlong (Nov 28, 2008 11:51 am) kernick (Nov 28, 2008 12:06 pm)
#973 of 3958 Re: Car Pool to Washington [cooterbfd] by gagrice Nov 28, 2008 (11:00 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 10:35 am) I agree. Most of the time those come on ads are for the purple car they have had on the lot for 8 months. I have never leased a car, as it seemed such a rip-off when you added the hidden costs. Unless you can write it all off, it is not a good deal.
#974 of 3958 Re: Car Pool to Washington [tlong] by dave8697 Nov 28, 2008 (11:41 am)
Replying to: tlong (Nov 27, 2008 1:34 pm) Hype? So which of the 30 mpg models is a figment of GM's imagination? I know of one similar pair. Replies to this message: tlong (Nov 28, 2008 11:53 am) dave8697 (Nov 28, 2008 3:37 pm) gagrice (Nov 28, 2008 3:57 pm) and 2 more... kernick (Nov 28, 2008 6:17 pm) and 15 more...
#975 of 3958 Re: Wake up people! [scape2] by tlong Nov 28, 2008 (11:51 am)
Replying to: scape2 (Nov 28, 2008 10:59 am) Start a new revolution in car building and technologies. One revolution would be to manufacture efficiently. The Detroit 3 have been hobbled by UAW requirements for job banks and work rules. The loan should require that these change in a big way. I recall that the jobs bank was created as a by-product of GMs move to robots. We can't get more efficient when we pay people to do nothing. Replies to this message: kernick (Nov 28, 2008 12:06 pm)

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