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Replying to: rogeliov (Nov 26, 2008 10:09 pm) You're right - We should have been afraid of the Japanese a long time ago (it's too late now), the Japanese should be very afraid of Korea, and Korea should be concerned about the Chinese. We're done for here in the US for manufacturing...... |
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 27, 2008 3:54 pm) Why dont you explain to me the purpose of designing a car for the jap market if you wont be allowed to sell it there in the first place?
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 27, 2008 1:31 pm) Case in point today. New Malibu has a base MSRP of about $20,500. Base Impala, about $2500 more. Yet, look at ads for both cars. i see ads every day around here for the Malibu LS for about $19,000. The Impala is generally advertised for a few hundred to a thousand more. Seeing as how the Impala is "old school" GM and the Malibu is "new school", getting better materials and such, it's no wonder that the smaller, "cheaper" Malibu commands almost as much as the bigger "more expensive" Impala. Remember, the Big 3 haven't begun to see the real savings from their 2007 contracts (VEBA). Now, that's not to say that more savings can't be negotiated right now, that would say loosen work restrictions, save healthcare monies, shrink the jobs bank, etc.
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 27, 2008 3:54 pm) What about the Holden Barina and Viva, or the Vauxhall Agila and Astra??? All GM owned, RHD (not left) and available now.
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Replying to: maple2 (Nov 27, 2008 5:20 pm) Quote from a March, 2008 article: "Wander through Tokyo's upscale wards and you'll find no shortage of expensive German models". BMW, Mercedes, and Audi manage to sell in Japan.
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 27, 2008 5:41 pm) GM should bring some of those small models over here! I know Ford is working to rapidly bring some of their Euro cars to the US. Many of us don't like big cars and trucks. If I want a good-handling, quality smaller car there is nothing of interest for me from the D3. That's a real shame. |
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 27, 2008 6:16 pm) http://www.customs.go.jp/toukei/srch/indexe.htm?M=03&P=1,2,,,1,2008,0,10,0,0,1,7- 050101,,,,,,,,,,3,,,,,,20 Germany IS the leader, but since ther is no breakdown by mfr., I'll assume that VW has the lion's share of those. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 27, 2008 5:35 pm) So while you don't say it explicitly, I'd gather from this statement that you mostly agree with Wagoner - the restructuring is complete, GM only needs a bridge loan until the economy improves and the previously negotiated changes take financial effect. There might be a few more incremental changes but nothing major. Is that correct? Let's just say that I totally disagree that this will be enough.
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"GM Asks U.S. FAA to Bar Public Tracking of Leased Corporate Jet " - Bloomberg News GM apparently doesn't want their plane trackable in the FAA public database! |
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