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Replying to: kernick (Nov 26, 2008 11:34 am) Well, if "A" is a worker in Michigan, and "B" is a worker in Alabama, and A's house costs twice what B's does because that's the fair market value of their house (lets say both houses are 1100 sq ft ranches on 1/2 acre), why should A have to settle for B's wage??? If A's company moves to Alabama to compete, how does the USA benefit??? If B's wage is moved up to at least be comparable to A's (standard of living wise, not necessarily dollar wise), then does B not have more buying power???
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 25, 2008 6:17 am) ones that are in dire need of money? 
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Replying to: nippononly (Nov 25, 2008 7:31 am) Better safe than sorry. No need to expend money that is not going to help immediately. Something that GM should learn.
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Replying to: driver100 (Nov 25, 2008 7:33 am) The amazing fact is that GM and Ford, both are doing pretty well outside the US. Wonder why??
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 26, 2008 9:53 am) Why is it that the top never gives up a thing when we are in trouble. They always pull from the first line supervision, from middle managment and the UAW but never from the E band group. Its time that they start giving up as much as the rest of us have done. They are not the FORD family. They work for Ford Mo Co the same as all the workers do. How is it that they can push some one out of a job and F up his credit and none of them have to pay for what they have done to a company that was one of the best just seven years ago? The start of this started back then. |
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Replying to: chikoo (Nov 26, 2008 7:17 pm) When the old man Ford was around he made sure that no CEO was paid as much as they are paid today. He understood that you could not pull all the margins out and that you had to leave some room for others to make some money. When this was done every one made some money and every one was happy. To day the people at the top dont think this way and thats why we are in trouble to day. Corp Greed is the way of today. What ever they make as a bass pay is what the pension will be. Thats not right they need to have the same as every one that works for them. Wake up and see whats truly going on and not what you think is the truth. I am not a UAW man but i see and have seen this for years and its BS and needs to stop. |
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How soon we all forget what the American auto industry did for us. In the time of WW II it was the auto industry that stopped making cars and started making what the USA needed to win the war. Yes and this was done with no strings attached. Buy the way don’t the us autoworkers use the American banks? Why no string for the banks? What did the banks do to help win the war? If we loose the auto industry how do we change over to do the same today? Do we buy what we need from Japan?? Will they make this stuff for us? Will they sell to us? Or will they watch us fall? Or have they started this war on the American auto industry as a pay back on the US. A pay back for what was done to them in WW II. So keep buying *from Japan** and help them buy out the American flag. You will end up standing up to the **Japan Flag.** instead of the USA. We came to this country because it was the land of opportunity but today’s generation has no loyalty to America. This is the start of the end if things don’t change soon. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 26, 2008 5:35 pm) You are expecting the car maker in Michigan to build a car for more than the car maker in Alabama. They both have to sell their products in the same markets. The auto maker in Michigan cannot compete against the automaker in Alabama. The fact it cost more to live in Michigan is irrelevant to the marketplace. Not the persons problem buying a new car. You want the automaker in Alabama to pay his workers more so the competition in Michigan has a chance to survive. How stupid would that be? The guy buying the car in Florida is only interested in how much car he gets for the money. If GM can no longer be competitive they need to pack it up and go to automaker Nirvana with Packard and Studebaker.
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