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Automotive News & Views Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?
3958 messages, Last post on Oct 02, 2009 at 4:52 PM
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I just feel that they don't have my best interests at heart. Their cars are dull and uninviting. The new 2010 Ford Fiesta offers more but not enough as the 2010 Pininfarina-Bollore B0 does. Plus, the B0 watches out for the environment, looks cool, re-charges automatically with regenerative braking and from solar panels on the roof and grille. Cool technology. Chev feels they have to up the ante on the Volt and charge $40,000+. Right. 
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for Chrysler to go down since they screwed me over with a lemon they never offered any repair (or payment) assitance on despite continual repair costs. I knew they would take Daimler down, and they did, but luckily for them, they abandoned ship just before the hull cracked in half (but the deadly holes in the structure were already there). I knew they'd rock Cerebus and that they were crazy to buy Chrysler, and that predictuion has come true. Chrysler gave me the middle finger when they kept charging me for repairs after warranty, and I'll give each and everyone of them my middle finger when they ask for a handout. Shame on them for asking for handouts from the gov't. If my vote has anything to say, it'll be a big fat NO to the BIG 3. NO NO NO!!!!! You won't get my money again as a consumer!!! And I'll be damned if you get your grubby little greedy hands on my tax money as a tax payer and American. Frankly, and in all honesty, I think giving the Taliban a loan would be a better idea than giving the Big 3 a loan. Truthfully, when you think about it, the BIG 3 has wrecked more destruction and negativity towards Americans than Bin Laden has. The Big 3 have been ruining America for decades!!! Bin Laden since 9/11/01. Bin Laden cost us a few buildings, BIG 3 have lost BILLIONS and BILLIONS year after year. Big 3 are a drain on our society; equivalent to being a terrorist to my happiness. Now... the RESPONSE to the terrorist attacks is a whole different ball game and are things we as a country chose to do (or at Least Bush chose) in response, and was not really Bin Laden's fault. We can blame him, but our over-reaction is our own current administration's/govt's failure. |
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you are spot on, man. When I go car shopping (and the Internet has made it so much of a "hands-on" experience) I go to what will serve my wife and I's needs. I also like something sporty(our '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS is a good example of this)but since about a year ago I am also shopping for a car that will not damage the environment and will not be dependent on foreign oil. I have found this with the 2010 Pininfarina-Bollore B0. The Big 2 1/2 can just falter. Let the natural economic climate take care of them. The thing is, if they don't get bailed out can you imagine how they'll complain to Obama? "You're gonna bail out AIG and not us?" "You're gonna bail out Citi (the U.S's largest bank) and not us?" Can't cha just hear 'em whinin' now?
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chump change. While his homepage is always changing, for a short time now, just look at the headings at Ed's site. http://www.insideautomotive.com/ Goldman again, fed pledges, nissan pullout, unsold cars piling up in LA, imf - worse to come. |
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 25, 2008 10:32 am) 1) AIG bailout was Bush's idea. 2) Letting the Big 3 fail was Bush's idea (although I know the Big 3 helped him get elected, but this is one area he should break his promises and give them the middle finger like the rest of Americans outside of MI. We could have a Gov't run manufacturing base and It coudln't POSSIBLY be any WORSE than the Big 3. forget the Big 3! Hasta la Vista baby! (in the words of a Republican governor in CA) 3) Bear Stearns bailout was Bush's idea And so on and so forth. Obama doesn't have to take any of the blame for anything that happens prior to Jan 20th in 2009 in my opinion. Bush can take all of the credit (blame?) for what he's done during his term in office. And my 2 cents is that no one should have been given a bailout, not AIG, not the banks, not the financial institutions, NO ONE. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 24, 2008 2:12 pm)
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Think about your past reactions to the situations you were presented-like a rat in a maze who was given an open doorway..to a hatchet. What has happened in the last eight or more years. Concentration of wealth for some individuals and their entities. Did you get yours. they get yours, take a tax deduction, and get richer next year. While the fear is now deflation, how does keeping the printing presses working overtime not produce a debased currency and hyper-inflation or just ...
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 25, 2008 7:42 am) 1. Unemployment at Bush pre-re-election was 5.5%, now it is 6.2%. BFD. 2. Sunbelt Homes tripled in value and then fell back to now being doubled in value. Lots more equity there now than in 2004. 3. Americans have cut gas consumption by healthy margins and have a more fuel efficient fleet than ever 4. Many people I know have their income up considerably under Bush and yet don't pay much more in taxes. 5. American auto industry still suffering the effects of subsidized foreign competition, especially since NAFTA, which is governed unfairly. 6. Productivity and competitiveness VS the rest of the word is at near record levels. 7. Interest rates are very low. I see the disaster as a media/politically incited loss of confidence paid for by the DNC. All they really have to do is look at the glass as half full. Stocks are based on confidence. They didn't mean for it to work as well as it did to tear Bush down. They also didn't see the $4 gas thing, which gave it too much extra push. 3 million people a year are added to the population of America, and for the most part, we live a first world life with cars and houses with electricity. Are there any IPOD, pay tv, or cell phone deprivations out there? All that growth is seen as a tremendous market by the rest of the world. This -4 M cars per year won't last.
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Replying to: dave8697 (Nov 25, 2008 2:11 pm) 2. Sunbelt Homes tripled in value and then fell back to now being doubled in value. Lots more equity there now than in 2004. 3. Americans have cut gas consumption by healthy margins and have a more fuel efficient fleet than ever 4. Many people I know have their income up considerably under Bush and yet don't pay much more in taxes. 5. American auto industry still suffering the effects of subsidized foreign competition, especially since NAFTA, which is governed unfairly. 6. Productivity and competitiveness VS the rest of the word is at near record levels. 7. Interest rates are very low. 1. What does BFD stand for? Why use 2004 rates rather than 2000 when Bush was elected? Suspicious!!!!! 2. Homes only increased in value because banks held interest rates artificially low. 3. Gas consumption was cut but gas expenditure is way up!!! 4. While taxes haven't gone up for many, the only people who have had incomes rise are in the top 1%. 99% of the population has had income completely stagnant for 8 years (when considering true inflation). 5. No subsidies exist for Foreign automakers; this is false. 6. Based on what? 7. Interest rates are low, but inflation is sky high!!!
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Replying to: andres3 (Nov 25, 2008 2:35 pm) Finger pointing is one thing, but we're asking if you favor a bailout in here. |
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