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Automotive News & Views Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?
3958 messages, Last post on Oct 02, 2009 at 4:52 PM
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Nov 19, 2008 11:49 am) Simple, the management of the big 3 have to approve the contract for the UAW. What you pay your employees is the responsibility of management. If you agree to overpay your employees and give them unreasonable benefits, you can't blame them for you losing money. You agreed to the terms. The buck stops with the CEO which is why they were getting grilled and why Rick Wagoner needs to go. |
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Replying to: manegi (Nov 22, 2008 11:23 am) Our companies are competing with Countries. Currency manipulation, uneven trade policies and looser labor rules undermine the U.S. You cannot hold American companies to costly standards and then allow other countries to dump product on your market while they set up barriers to U.S. products in their own markets. I don't care that you live in Japan or about the sermons that the U.S. gave. The bottom line is that countries compete with the U.S. because we make it easy for them to undercut our industries. For you to insinuate that the U.S. cannot compete is maddening and just wrong. No company can compete with countries. The U.S. Government needs to grow a set and level the playing field. And don't talk about the U.S. bailing out industry when Japan in #1 when it comes to corporate welfare. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 22, 2008 2:03 pm) Maybe your neighbor has the anvil, and your other neighbors... Better Half and I were offered to live in a cooler red state decades ago because of our organic food interests... |
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Just got the early edition of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and Ed's Column is titled "The Bailout". Not available yet on the paper's website (maybe tomorrow) so the following link is for the last column, which was also linked in a Hummer post. "It's Hammer Time" http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/1040507.html
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Replying to: tired_old_dave (Nov 22, 2008 8:23 pm) Hammer This habit of misinforming us is hardly new. Early this year, all of the so-called experts were being quoted daily saying that the primary cause justifying crude’s ever-higher prices was oil supply problems. But that just didn’t align with facts that anyone could easily find: Oil was plentiful – while demand was falling worldwide. I don't agree with all he says. He does point out some interesting facts that are left out of mainstream reporting. |
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Replying to: tired_old_dave (Nov 22, 2008 11:39 am) My very first job out of college (going back 20+ years) was doing computer programming for the local Fisher Body plant. Pretty rudimentary stuff compared to the sophistication of robotic car building today. Anyway, we stamped and formed body panels and "T-tops" for the then Monte Carlo, Grand Prix, Camaro/Firebird, and made sunroofs for Cadillacs...as well as sundry little connectors and pieces to bolt the panels to the frames. All those panels were then shipped about 20 minutes away to an assembly plant, which turned out finished Camaros and Firebirds (and to other assembly plants for Montes/Grand Prix and Cadillacs). Those plants are long gone. The idea of quality "Body by Fisher" lost its luster. They're little more than a memory, now.
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Replying to: graphicguy (Nov 23, 2008 7:30 am)
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Ed has the link on his website for today's Star-Telegram column. Just click on the logo on the right side bar. http://www.insideautomotive.com/ |
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Replying to: tired_old_dave (Nov 23, 2008 9:04 am) "President-elect Barack Obama's advisers said Sunday automakers must convince Congress that they have a plan to return to profitability before they can get $25 billion in emergency bridge loans -- and that they should fly commercial." Detroit News
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 23, 2008 9:41 am) Even though a blue person in a not so red state anymore, would love to have been a fly on the wall in that white house meeting. And red blue doesn't really matter. Leger demaine? the path has been shown. First George I and then the British PM, new world order, and the PM wanted the middle east and china to pay for our part. Will we get one amero for one or three or five or more greenbacks. An earlier post used the word "serf" pretty much nailed it. I still believe it is all about submission. Keep a jet plane but don't fly on a little plane-important people have had accidents.
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