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Re: Nissan Posts Loss [ruking1]
by lemko
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May 12, 2009 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 12, 2009 9:09 am)
unless you do not consider LA part of America
Heck, I don't even consider it part of the planet Earth!
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Re: Nissan Posts Loss [lemko]
by ruking1
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May 12, 2009 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: lemko (May 12, 2009 9:20 am)
Well it is not far from AREA 51  (as the crow flys)
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Re: Nissan Posts Loss [gagrice]
by imidazol97
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May 12, 2009 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 12, 2009 7:08 am)
Looked at Fiskars for rose pruning saw made in China. I noted the Corona saw looked better and I bought it because it was made in Korea: think Hyundai. Good.
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Re: Nissan Posts Loss [imidazol97]
by ruking1
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May 12, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 12, 2009 9:50 am)
Gerber (division of Fiskers) , Portland ,Oregon.
Buck formerly of (LA) now Post Falls Idaho
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Re: Nissan Posts Loss [imidazol97]
by gagrice
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May 12, 2009 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (May 12, 2009 9:50 am)
my best pruning shears are Felco made in Switzerland. I also have two different Fiskars one made in USA the other the UK. The UK pair are better and where more expensive. I think the moral of the story is, these companies did what they had to do to survive. Something the domestic auto makers were unable to accomplish. Now they are begging US to bail them out. If you follow the money on all the bailouts you will find a special interest group passing cash to our government officials. Both elected and appointed.
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Why businesses fail [ruking1]
by gagrice
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May 12, 2009 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (May 12, 2009 10:03 am)
Buck knives are from San Diego before moving to Idaho. I am friends with the family. Old man Buck may have been in LA prior to 1961. That is when we met when I worked next door to their shop. A fine family. They left San Diego because they were being bullied by our local city government. Same reason a lot of businesses are moving from unfriendly states like CA and Michigan.
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Re: Why businesses fail [gagrice]
by ruking1
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May 12, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 12, 2009 6:19 pm)
These very same municipalities that do their dead level best to make sure businesses like these LEAVE, always claim to not understand.... why they left. I guess that is why they form "blue ribbon" comissions to attempt to convince folks they are doing something.....
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Re: Why businesses fail [gagrice]
by steve_ HOST
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May 12, 2009 (8:35 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 12, 2009 6:19 pm)
Hoyt Buck started in Mountain Home, Idaho originally and then moved to California and then came back here after many decades. Probably couldn't make it here in the 40's after the war. Nothing stays the same.
I have two Felcos and a Corona knock-off hand pruner, and I prefer the Corona. Perhaps made off-shore but they are a California company (based in Corona naturally).
I'm trying to come up with some way to tie this in with government loans to Detroit but I've already used up my weekly allotment of groaners so I can't say stuff like prune the deadwood.
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Re: Why businesses fail [steve_]
by gagrice
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May 12, 2009 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 12, 2009 8:35 pm)
The ties are very close. The auto industry will have to go off shore to survive. A company cannot pay $30 per hour for unskilled labor to make the small cars that are going to be mandated to save fossil fuel. The current rounds of bailouts are just paybacks for votes. Even Obama knows that GM cannot survive with their debt load and the UAW noose around their neck. When the gravestone is set it will read 'here lies GM brought down by those that were greedy". GM never learned that they were competing against other companies. They kept believing that US consumers would buy whatever they shoved out the door. Wagoner was too busy stashing his $15 million a year to pay any attention to the company.
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Re: Why businesses fail [gagrice]
by steve_ HOST
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May 12, 2009 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (May 12, 2009 8:57 pm)
Off-shore may not remain all that cheap for long. Mexico was hot and now it's not.
Let 'em come to Boise; we already make big honking diesel locomotives here, so why not some econoboxes? I don't know what the pay is but the benes are good.
Here's a nice graph for you btw - GM stock price since 2004:
GM Executives Cash Out As Bankruptcy Looms (Inside Line)
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