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Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?

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Re: Bank of America = GM and CRYsler [circlew] by cooterbfd
Jan 14, 2009 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 14, 2009 3:50 pm)

".......Anyone need to dispute this?? Come on, Do you fell lucky...PUNK?"
 
I call your bluff Harry. No bullets in your gun.
 
Back it up w/ something. I've got nothing to lose, lying here on the ground staring down the barrel of an UNLOADED .45
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Re: Bank of America = GM and CRYsler [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jan 14, 2009 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 14, 2009 4:12 pm)

staring down the barrel of an UNLOADED .45
 
Wrong again. It was a .44 magnum the most powerful handgun on the planet.
 
At least when Dirty Harry was saying it. Just like the UAW, he was a throw back to a different time. Walking around carrying protest signs is SO EU or MIDDLE EASTERN. This is America where we just get it done.
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Re: Bank of America = GM and CRYsler [cooterbfd] by circlew
Jan 14, 2009 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jan 14, 2009 4:12 pm)

You've got a lot to loose, pal!
 
At the North American International Auto Show in Detroit on Monday, Ford Chief Executive Officer Alan Mulally predicted that U.S. vehicle sales "will gradually start to come back in the second half" of the year. Confidently declaring that "we will not see the worst case" scenario for industry sales, Mr. Mulally nonetheless acknowledged in a Bloomberg Television interview that Ford "would definitely need to think about recapitalizing" if total industry deliveries slumped to 10 million.
 
That level approximates the U.S. annual sales rate in the fourth quarter.
 
"The long and short of the situation is that it is unlikely to improve anytime soon," consulting firm IHS Global Insight, based in Lexington, Mass., said in a research report last week. "A predicted sales rate of 10.1 to 10.3 million units in 2009 would be disastrous, meeting or even [falling] below the 'worst-case scenarios' presented by the Detroit Three automakers to the U.S. Congress late last year."
 
The latest projection of IHS Global Insight, which has been making economic forecasts for more than 40 years, calls for American consumers to buy between 10 million and 10.5 million vehicles this year.
 
If sales were to fall that far, Ford told Congress in December that it would likely need federal loans of as much as $13 billion to sustain all its operations.

If Ford goes for $13B, GM and C would be OK?????
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Chrysler News [loosenut] by explorerx4
Jan 14, 2009 (6:58 pm)
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Replying to: loosenut (Jan 14, 2009 1:45 pm)

so exactly when is that 5W20 oil supposed to cause the engine to sieze?
my explorer has almost 90k on it. do i have another week? or a month?
how long?
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Re: Chrysler News [explorerx4] by steve_ HOST
Jan 14, 2009 (7:02 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 14, 2009 6:58 pm)

My van has 130k on it using mostly 5W20 (sometimes I buy the garbage stuff on sale) with 7,500 mile intervals.
 
So you probably don't have anything to worry about for at least another ten days or so.
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Re: Bailout Money [driver100] by explorerx4
Jan 14, 2009 (7:04 pm)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 13, 2009 4:15 am)

how long are you going to keep the same car?
mine are < 1 year, 5 years, 6.5 years and 18.5 years. i realize not everyone has the same priorities regarding the vehicles they buy. mine are different that yours. doesn't make either one better or worse. i am in favor of the government assistance for the automakers since it will at least create a softer landing for the general economy as it relates to auto industry contraction due to lower sales.
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Re: Chrysler News [steve_] by explorerx4
Jan 14, 2009 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 14, 2009 7:02 pm)

maybe i should park my awd's and drive the mustang since it has 10w30 in it.
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Re: Chrysler News [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 14, 2009 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 14, 2009 7:02 pm)

It did surprise me that Toyota put regular 30 W in my Sequoia on the first oil change. I mostly use 5W40 Pennsoil when given the option. I was not going to pay $70 extra for synthetic on my first and last service at a Toyota dealer.
 
PS
Have we given GM any cash or are we waiting for the Chinese to print more money for US?
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Re: Chrysler News [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jan 14, 2009 (10:16 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 14, 2009 9:35 pm)

There's no telling what's in those bulk oil drums hanging from the ceiling at the dealerships. Could be re-refined stuff, but it's cheap, and one size fits oil. (Hey, I'm Southern - that's the way all sounds when I say it).
 
In GM news, I got nothing, except more pictures of the Caddy presidential limo:
 

 
link
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Re: Chrysler News [steve_] by gagrice
Jan 14, 2009 (10:30 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 14, 2009 10:16 pm)

Looks like the Feds are trying to help GM out. That had to cost half a million with 5 inch glass.

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