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Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?

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Re: Bailout Money [circlew] by driver100
Jan 13, 2009 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 13, 2009 4:26 am)

I thought Aztek was a futuristic tank? It put a hurting on my eyes the first time I saw it
 
Put it out in battle and the enemy will go running.
 
Especially if the paint them dull olive green which I saw once.....it was 1st prize in a contest. I think I'd be too embarassed to claim it.
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Chrysler News by circlew
Jan 14, 2009 (4:51 am)
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hrysler’s parent company Cerberus is in talks with Renault-Nissan and Canadian parts supplier Magna about selling its various car brands, according to a report published late Wednesday.
 
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Re: Chrysler News [circlew] by driver100
Jan 14, 2009 (5:39 am)
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hrysler’s parent company Cerberus is in talks with Renault-Nissan and Canadian parts supplier Magna
 
I guess Magna is glad they lost out to Cerberus in the first round of Chryslers sale. It would make some sense for them to buy part of Chrysler since they make so many parts for Chryco already......but buying the Calibre and PT Cruiser lines Does that make sense?
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Re: Chrysler News [circlew] by bpizzuti
Jan 14, 2009 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 14, 2009 4:51 am)

Hmm, the Magna Caliber? The Renault Wrangler? Nissan already has some excellent BOF off-roaders, Jeep really sounds like it'll generate a lot of duplication for them. They'd be better off buying RAM, since they're already reselling the trucks as Nissans...
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Auto sales will decline more by kernick
Jan 14, 2009 (9:07 am)
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From the following I don't see auto sales increasing volume anytime soon, except for an occasional blip due to a sale or some special event.
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/three-unappealing-conclusions-internationa- - l-banks/story.aspx?guid=%7B00F8D01E%2D13BE%2D411B%2DB374%2D08630DCA8F0B%7D&dist=- - TQP_Mod_mktwN
 
The price moves are understandable since the latest events offer an unappealing menu of conclusions:
1) The banks themselves haven't done as well as perceived at coping with the crisis;
2) Things are getting a lot worse for banking and the global economy;
3) Both.

 
This means that it is more doubtful that any auto-maker will make $ for a while.
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Re: Auto sales will decline more [kernick] by driver100
Jan 14, 2009 (9:53 am)
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1) The banks themselves haven't done as well as perceived at coping with the crisis;
2) Things are getting a lot worse for banking and the global economy;
3) Both.

Looks bleak.......but one day this too shall pass.....we all hope!
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Re: Chrysler News [bpizzuti] by loosenut
Jan 14, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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i believe in the evolution that capitalism has always done with -everything..many good products failed because not enough people understood what they were,or how good-or bad,a given product was..i've found some really neat,creative products in the products death row-the 99 cent places.. then,not unlike chrystler's inventory of those giant land yhat-gas guzzling-rolling sofa's they were making back in the -70's.when lee iacoca (who invented the mustang) took over and revived it with the K-car and the minivan..making cars that people WANTED AND NEEDED-rather than what their comitties decided what they THOUGHT we wanted!!..
--THEN, to export those jobs to where they could exploit the poor-usually in some third world country-where they ALSO got to "help" write enviormental policy,and labor laws,all to "maximise profits",,then still ask 40.000 for a car that won't go 100.000 miles and still be a car,while europe has been doing it for generations..
the thing that gets me,is where they tell people to put that 5w20 oil in their cars-KNOWING a motor will sieze a main bearing with that thin crap in it..rember 3-in-one oil?..that was a 10 weight oil..so,would YOU expect protection from a oil too thin to lubricate a sewing machine??..and the hundreds of cars i see for sale on craigs,where-it's a nice car,only needs a motor !!they call it "planned obsolesence",where parts only last for about 100.00,then,are designed to break,so you get tired of fixing that old,dirty,dented car for a NEW one,and they make money!!!
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Bank of America = GM and CRYsler by circlew
Jan 14, 2009 (3:50 pm)
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Very, very soon, GM and C will need more dough DESPITE the GM claim that they MIGHT not need more bailout help. FORD will be on line as well!
 
Anyone need to dispute this?? Come on, Do you fell lucky...PUNK?
 
Did anyone really think the internal forecasting capability in the D3 are any better than the IDIOTS in the Banking/Finance community, let alone CONGRESS?
 
OK, I'm good now after I got that off my chest. Now, on to paying my taxes...
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Bank of America = GM and CRYsler [circlew] by cooterbfd
Jan 14, 2009 (4:12 pm)
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".......Anyone need to dispute this?? Come on, Do you fell lucky...PUNK?"
 
I call your bluff Harry. No bullets in your gun.
 
Back it up w/ something. I've got nothing to lose, lying here on the ground staring down the barrel of an UNLOADED .45
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Re: Bank of America = GM and CRYsler [cooterbfd] by gagrice
Jan 14, 2009 (5:13 pm)
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staring down the barrel of an UNLOADED .45
 
Wrong again. It was a .44 magnum the most powerful handgun on the planet.
 
At least when Dirty Harry was saying it. Just like the UAW, he was a throw back to a different time. Walking around carrying protest signs is SO EU or MIDDLE EASTERN. This is America where we just get it done.

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