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Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?

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Re: D3 and UAW home enjoying the holidays? [steve_] by explorerx4
Jan 06, 2009 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 9:22 am)

'Wagoner's personal flag". LOL!
how about those white wall tires?
i wonder what was the first presidential limo to have those?
and check out that presidential suburban in the left side of the picture.
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Re: Toyota sales are down 41% !!!!!! [gogogodzilla] by circlew
Jan 06, 2009 (5:17 pm)
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Replying to: gogogodzilla (Jan 06, 2009 4:43 pm)

VW of America -
 
2007 - 427,450
2008 - 452,330
 
-5.5% year/year
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: D3 and UAW home enjoying the holidays? [explorerx4] by steve_ HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 06, 2009 5:13 pm)

Just to clarify, my pic is of the existing limo - the new one is still in its camo. Pics are at the Detroit News.
 
(Thanks OW).
 
In other news, GM Says it May Not Need Any Additional Loans.
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Re: D3 and UAW home enjoying the holidays? [steve_] by bpizzuti
Jan 07, 2009 (3:28 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 6:20 pm)

Yeah, sure. I heard Santa and the Easter Bunny left some cash under the tree for them. Chrysler is DEAD, get over it. We'll see what happens with GM, but I expect them to go begging again.
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Re: Toyota sales are down 41% !!!!!! [circlew] by gagrice
Jan 07, 2009 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 5:17 pm)

I got a different set of figures for VW. Looks like they did better than most.
 
HERNDON, Va.— Volkswagen of America, Inc. today announced December 2008 sales of 17,577 units, a 14.4 percent decrease over December 2007. Full year sales of 223,128 total units for 2008, was a decrease of 3.2 percent verse 2007 sales.
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Re: Toyota sales are down 41% !!!!!! [circlew] by driver100
Jan 07, 2009 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jan 06, 2009 5:17 pm)

VW of America -
  
2007 - 427,450
2008 - 452,330
  
-5.5% year/year

 
Isn't that an increase?
(could be world???)
 
This is what I just found;HERNDON, Va.— Volkswagen of America, Inc. today announced December 2008 sales of 17,577 units, a 14.4 percent decrease over December 2007. Full year sales of 223,128 total units for 2008, was a decrease of 3.2 percent verse 2007 sales.
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Re: D3 and UAW home enjoying the holidays? [steve_] by dtownfb
Jan 07, 2009 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 06, 2009 6:20 pm)

They should clarify this article. it is Ron Gettlefinger that says GM may not need another loan. There is a "source" that is sighted that says this as well but until there is a name for this source...
 
Don't know how they can even predict this. GM was losing money in 2007 when their sales were 20+% higher. With sales in the tank and even making cuts, I don't see how they can stop the bleeding when their products are not moving off the dealer's lots without massive incentives.
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Re: Toyota sales are down 41% !!!!!! [driver100] by gagrice
Jan 07, 2009 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 07, 2009 7:10 am)

Cannot be a world figure. VW is # 4 world wide. They may include Porsche Audi in that figure for NA.
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Re: Toyota sales are down 41% !!!!!! [gagrice] by dieselone
Jan 07, 2009 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 07, 2009 7:28 am)

VW does have a cloned Chrysler minivan and a new jetta sportwagon along with the new jetta tdi in 2008 vs 2007 that might account for the increase. Doubt they're selling many of those vans though.
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Re: Toyota sales are down 41% !!!!!! [driver100] by circlew
Jan 07, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: driver100 (Jan 07, 2009 7:10 am)

Crossed the years. My bad.
 
Volkswagen of America Inc.
 
12/07 32,697 12/08 39,864 -18.0% from Dec. 2007
 
2007 427,450 2008 452,330 -5.5% from 2007
 
Market Share 12/08 3.6% 12/07 2.9%
 
YTD 2008 3.2% YTD 2007 2.8%
 
WSJ
 
Regards,
OW

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