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Automotive News & Views Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?
3929 messages, Last post on May 30, 2009 at 6:59 AM
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 01, 2008 8:49 am) Actually steve, I believe the automaker plans are due tomorrow, and the CEO testimony is scheduled for Friday, isn't that it? andre: the interiors of the Malibu and Aura I was in were literally IDENTICAL. As for the exteriors, they look very similar to me - I realize noses and taillights are individualized, but this is just one more example of rebadging the bad way. And look at Aura sales, in the crapper from the beginning, because it's a SATURN. The forgotten brand. Why can't GM get this? Everybody else in the world gets this! The car should have been a Chevy from day one.
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 01, 2008 10:36 am) 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 30, 2008 3:05 pm) One thing that truly annoys me about the Aura is that there isn't really a good spot to put your hand to close the trunk lid - no license plate cut out, no chrome trim, nada. Which means you'll put fingerprints on the paint. The 3.5L/4-speed was phased out in 2007, I think. If I had to get one, I'd probably go with the 2.4L/6-speed auto. |
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Replying to: dieselone (Nov 30, 2008 10:10 am) |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 27, 2008 1:27 pm) Um, GM had a perfectly competent offering in Europe called the Corsa but they forgot to make it safe enough for U.S crash standards. Instead, we get the miserable little penalty box known as the Aveo which itself was achieving a miserable 3 star crash test ratings not too long ago. That, and lousy gas mileage to boot. Oh, and it's gonna be here till around 2011 or so. Yup, brilliant move there GM! Ford has a new Fiesta coming over that sounds like it'll give the Honda Fit a run for the money. Auto mags are already claiming it to be more fun and tossable and achieving better mileage than the Honda too. This is where GM and Ford differ and why I have for the most part supported them over the years. When they really "TRY" to put the effort into something, it shows. Meanwhile GM will put enough effort in to build something that comes off as mediocre to average, and then when it doesn't meet sales expectations, they just clone it and hope it's siblings pick up the slack.  And then when it farts out completely, GM goes and re-names the damn thing hoping that the buying public forgets all about the previous F-ups from the last model. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Nov 28, 2008 4:44 am) BTW, bought my first 2 Honda Accords from the one in Burlington. Excellent dealership FWIW. |
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 8:19 am) And last I spoke with him, at 50+ thousand miles, it has needed nothing (1 warranty repair for the rear tailgate) major in that amount of mileage than both of his previous truck COMBINED.
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 01, 2008 8:49 am) |
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Dec 01, 2008 2:28 pm) |
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Dec 01, 2008 2:01 pm) Um, GM had a perfectly competent offering in Europe called the Corsa but they forgot to make it safe enough for U.S crash standards. Um, Honda DID have to federalize the Fit for U.S. shores, you know, and it spent quite a bit doing so. That's the difference between the two - GM hoped to swamp 'em with sheer model quantity rather than invest in bringing over the most competitive models. GroupThink at work..... But you have to admit, even if you are a Ford fan, that neither Ford or GM has made quick or effective steps to globalize their operations. The writing was on the wall by 1990, yet here it is 2008 and they are still not there. It took them almost 20 years to PLAN TO get serious about it. Bailout? Thumbs down.
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