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Automotive News & Views Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 5:34 pm) I had a chance to check these two out at the auto show this weekend, and whoa! The new Malibu is an absolute carbon copy of the Aura! I hope these two have different engines (although I don't think they do) or chassis tweaks or SOMETHING to distinguish them, because otherwise this is a blatant case of rebadging (admittedly rebadging a very good car - the Opel Vectra) which I thought GM was trying to get away from.... ...and BTW, do my eyes deceive me, or do these cars NOT have cupholders? I couldn't even find a bottle holder in the door. On a side note, I made a point of sitting in all the midsize and compact models this time around, and I have to say there is SO little that stands out in this industry these days, Malibu and Aura included. I say that with one caveat: the Chryslers are distinctly, obviously, cheaper and harder inside than all the other brands out there. More roughly built too. 3 days and counting until GM has to turn in its new turnaround plan..... |
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 29, 2008 10:44 pm)  Oh, and the rower GM fired was UAW, so they didn't actually stop paying him anyway, which means the bonus money came out of nowhere...no wonder GM is in such terrible shape.  Why is everyone obsessed with GM, anyway? They're a dinosaur in the auto industry. They keep reporting that Ford is in a better position, and has been playing things much smarter. Let GM die, give Ford a bailout in the form of a preferred stock buy (I don't like bailouts in general, but I can tolerate the government buying stock with my money: at least there's a potential for return), and leave Chrysler alone...Cerberus can bail them out themselves if they really want to, why is Nardelli crying to the government instead of to the owners of his company? Or did Cerberus already tell him to take a hike? If they did, maybe there's a good reason, and we should listen. |
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Replying to: dave8697 (Nov 29, 2008 7:02 pm) Amen. There's a vast difference with some folk in the level of care and maintenance given their cars in the past years. While some were afraid not to have HoToy do their 15,000 mile full price repair and checkup, others let their US brand cars go with infrequent oil changes at the corner service station. They didn't take them to the dealer for those other things to be fixed under recalls, secret warranties, and just "general maintenance" like replacing the transmission in your Honda as it fails. 
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 30, 2008 6:45 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 30, 2008 6:45 am) Air Shock Absorber MAP Sensor Power Steering Pump Air Bag Sensor Regards, OW
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 30, 2008 6:45 am) My GMC dealer sent me coupons for free lube and oil changes on the GMC PU I bought from them. I never spent a penny on service the year and a half I owned that truck. By contrast the Toyota dealer across the street from GMC where I bought my Sequoia charged nearly $60 for the 5000 mile oil change. They used cheapo 30 weight dyno oil. Synthetic would have added $70 to the price. I will probably change to synthetic at 10k miles. I will do it myself for that kind of rip-off price. VW only charged me $53 for my Passat TDI and it was very specialized oil. I would rate Toyota service near the bottom. With Lexus at the bottom of the pond. Lexus is good till your warranty runs out. If you don't trade-in for a new car they stick the royal knife in you. While our LS400 is a very good car, it was very expensive maintenance until we found a good indy garage. Only time will tell if that changes when GM is gone. |
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Replying to: circlew (Nov 30, 2008 7:19 am) Air Shock Absorber MAP Sensor Power Steering Pump Air Bag Sensor Sounds like the experience I had with a 00 Suburban, only you haven't gotten to the expensive parts yet;) A/C compressors and transmissions dieing at an early age certainly get your attention when paying the bill. Horrid fit n' finish and rattles are the icing on the cake.
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 29, 2008 8:02 am)
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