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Automotive News & Views Do You Favor A Government Loan To The Detroit 3?
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 5:34 pm) Hey, if I wanted cars the size of the one lemko likes I'd be buying GM, too! Makes perfect sense for him - and they are the things that GM does consistently well. I'm with you on the Chrysler lineup. Chrysler always had - even when their mechanicals weren't great they still looked great. Now they aren't great mechanically AND they aren't attractive.
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Replying to: fezo (Nov 29, 2008 5:54 pm) I wouldn't mind getting ahold of one of those old beasts, especially a convertible. Heck, if I could find one that's in good shape, and just use it as a fair weather car, it would probably last forever!
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your talking about Amererican cars just reminded me of a rig that is All-American that I love. The 1964 Ford pickup. Yep, if I were to step out of reality for a while and want to buy a pick-em-up truck, it would be this one. Simple, great design that looks good every time I see one. For me the same goes if I were to buy a new pickup truck. It would have to be a Ford pickup truck. Although I would look closely at a Chev pickup before I bought Ford. Doesn't matter, though, I'll probably never buy a '64 Ford pickup or a 2009 Ford pickup. Good thing I'm not the one to decide about loaning billions of dollars of cash to the Big 2 1/2...I might just along with it. 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 5:34 pm) 
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 29, 2008 6:28 pm) Every once in awhile, I get the idea of buying a new (or newer used) pickup to replace my aging '85 Silverado. But then last week I finally broke down and decided to put some money into the thing. It's in the shop now, getting the power window on the driver's side and radio fixed. And as soon as he has the space in his shop for it, my mechanic is going to fix the one serious rust spot that it has, on the lower passenger side rocker. So, it'll probably be with me for the indefinite future. But unfortunately for the domestics, that means I won't be buying a new truck from them anytime soon. Although I gotta admit, I'm starting to feel this unhealthy attraction to the 2009 Ram!
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 29, 2008 8:02 am) I've known Honda owners who just got their car back from a 100,000 mile checkup that cost them $1200 and then they said that nothing has ever gone wrong with it. All the 150k+ mile Hondas I've rode in were falling apart where the drivetrain attaches to the frame. I'v kept GM cars to 19, 22, and 22 yrs and sold them in great running condition.
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 6:18 pm) One of my great regrets was seeing a light green 73 Impala convertible back when it was maybe 4 years old and not jumping on it. Oh, well... |
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A Japanese company and an American company decided to have a canoe race on the Mississippi River. Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race. On the big day the Japanese won by a mile. Afterwards, the American team became very discouraged and morally depressed. The American management decided that the reason for the crushing defeat had to be found. A "Measurement Team," made up of senior management was formed. They would investigate and recommend appropriate action. Their conclusion was that the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the Americans had 1 person rowing and 8 people steering. So American management hired a consulting company and paid them incredible amounts of money. They advised that too many people were steering the boat and not enough people were rowing. To prevent losing to the Japanese again next year, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager. They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the "Rowing Team Quality First Program," with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower: "We must give the rower empowerment and enrichment through this quality program." The next year the Japanese won by 2 miles. Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. Then they gave a High Performance Award to the steering managers and distributed the money saved as bonuses to the senior executives.
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Replying to: tlong (Nov 29, 2008 10:44 pm) 
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 29, 2008 5:34 pm) I had a chance to check these two out at the auto show this weekend, and whoa! The new Malibu is an absolute carbon copy of the Aura! I hope these two have different engines (although I don't think they do) or chassis tweaks or SOMETHING to distinguish them, because otherwise this is a blatant case of rebadging (admittedly rebadging a very good car - the Opel Vectra) which I thought GM was trying to get away from.... ...and BTW, do my eyes deceive me, or do these cars NOT have cupholders? I couldn't even find a bottle holder in the door. On a side note, I made a point of sitting in all the midsize and compact models this time around, and I have to say there is SO little that stands out in this industry these days, Malibu and Aura included. I say that with one caveat: the Chryslers are distinctly, obviously, cheaper and harder inside than all the other brands out there. More roughly built too. 3 days and counting until GM has to turn in its new turnaround plan..... |
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