Article Comments - Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Nissan Altima

120 messages, Last post on Feb 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM

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Finding the Sweet Spot in Family Sedans - After all the poking, prodding, driving and scoring, the $30,690 2009 Mazda 6 s Grand Touring earns a total of 70.3 points in our comparison for a 1st-place finish. (more)

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#58 of 120 Re: Will adding the $4,200 Premium package turn the tables? [maxamillion1] by dgs4 Sep 17, 2008 (5:02 pm)
Replying to: maxamillion1 (Sep 08, 2008 10:35 pm) "Actually when comparing all these sedans using 2009 Model year pricing,"... and on, and on, and on... I have no idea where you found the time to type and research all of that? I can't say I took the time to read it all either, too much information. Some of you are being way too anal retentive about features rather than the heart of the review. It was 3 V6 models against each other and the winner was the Mazda 6 because it drove the best, got the best gas mileage, had the best interior ergonomics and looked the best. No one said anything about HID lights, or rear air vents, or all the little nit picky stuff some of you people are focusing on. The addition of the premium package, or whatever package it is some of you are bitching about missing on the Altima, wasn't going to change the outcome of the test. For a comparison test like this I could care less about features and more about how the car drives, what kind of gas mileage it gets, if it's noisy or not, and how good the ergonomics. Features and all that other crap can be researched when it's time to buy, but not something I want spent time on in a comparison test. Replies to this message: maxamillion1 (Sep 17, 2008 9:42 pm) dgs4 (Sep 17, 2008 10:13 pm) maxamillion1 (Sep 17, 2008 11:10 pm) and 2 more...
#59 of 120 by ribbonspeakers Sep 17, 2008 (5:12 pm)
Amen to above post.
#60 of 120 by kapaaian Sep 17, 2008 (5:38 pm)
And that comfort rating, the.... "The author when comparing the three sedans conveniently left out the comfort ratings of the front and back seats, except to mention the Altima's lack of head space in the back seat. Don't believe Consumer Guide (fall 2008) that rates the comfort levels of both the Altima and the Mazda 6 one to two notches lower than the Accord, front and back respectively. Just sit in all three cars and judge for yourself. Be honest, which car would be more comfortable to drive on a long trip? The Honda Accord hands down! " Um, are you sure that's from the 2009 Mazda6? I didn't even know that CR had gotten their hands on a 2009 Mazda6 yet...
#62 of 120 Ummm.... by maxamillion1 Sep 17, 2008 (9:42 pm)
Replying to: dgs4 (Sep 17, 2008 5:02 pm) Took maybe thirty mintues to get all that information...and all of it was found right here on Edmunds.com Some of you are being way too anal retentive about features rather than the heart of the review. It was 3 V6 models against each other and the winner was the Mazda 6 because it drove the best, got the best gas mileage, had the best interior ergonomics and looked the best. No one said anything about HID lights, or rear air vents, or all the little nit picky stuff some of you people are focusing on. The addition of the premium package, or whatever package it is some of you are bitching about missing on the Altima, wasn't going to change the outcome of the test. Actually Rear A/C vents were mentioned in the Edmunds.com review...but HID lights were not....and instead of trying to address those of us who are simply discussing this partricular comparison test, you might want to check the type of langauge you used in your own particular message. Afterall, isn't that the reason this blog disscusion was created in the first place? I'm sure if things get too rowdy here a moderator will do his or her job, that's why they exist. Further, Edmunds.com themselves has a section for each review that compares the "Top 10 Features" so obviously feature content is important. I myself have stated that I don't think the results of the test would have changed...but like with any post on these forums, if you don't like what it typed, you simply don't have to read it. Replies to this message: dgs4 (Sep 17, 2008 10:13 pm) maxamillion1 (Sep 17, 2008 11:10 pm) madpistol (Sep 19, 2008 7:00 pm) and 1 more...
#63 of 120 Re: Ummm.... [maxamillion1] by dgs4 Sep 17, 2008 (10:13 pm)
Replying to: maxamillion1 (Sep 17, 2008 9:42 pm) "if you don't like what it typed, you simply don't have to read it." Go read my post again. At the very top of my post I clearly said I did not read it. No time to go through all of that. I don't care about features, I care about the stuff that matters when you're reading a professional car review; performance, ergonomics, noise levels, interior space, and gas mileage. If all of that stuff is no good then I could care less that it has nine million fluff features. As a matter of fact I think some auto manufactures throw as many features and gadgets at you as they can in the hope you won't analyze the stuff that matters. If adding some premium package to the Altima still wouldn't have changed the outcome I don't understand why so many of you are wasting so much time talking about it? Further my language was fine. Let the moderator worry about his/her job and you worry about yours, which isn't moderating this messageboard. Replies to this message: maxamillion1 (Sep 17, 2008 11:10 pm) madpistol (Sep 19, 2008 7:00 pm) gooddeal2 (Sep 19, 2008 7:42 pm)
#64 of 120 Re: Ummm.... [dgs4] by maxamillion1 Sep 17, 2008 (11:10 pm)
Replying to: dgs4 (Sep 17, 2008 10:13 pm) That was my point exactly...instead of you moaning and groaning about our discussion, why don't you let the moderater "moderate" and do his or her job and take care of it. Complaining is one thing but use of disrespectful language is another and does not contribute to the discussion at hand. Dynamics, quality, fuel economy and other aspects are important, but features are obviously important to many of us and to Edmunds as well. Take a look at the "Top 10 Features" category. 8 out of 10 of the features would have been on the Altima with Prem. pkg. Feature content and price contributes to 20 percent of Edmunds' testing results each, a score that ties with "Evaluation" and is higher than the "Performance" category that is so important to you. The discrepencies between price gives the Altima a relatively small advantage over the competition while the discrepencies in features gives the Altima's nearest competitor a clear advantage. The Altima would have beaten the Accord on feature content and it would have slotted somewhere between the 6 and Accord on price allowing it to equal or even surpass the Accord in the rankings...that's the point...and Edmunds makes note of it in the test. Also, it has been noted by many a publication that the Altima feels substantially more upscale when equipped with leather interior...that seems to be a Nissan trait in general. None of these cars are bad, and its obvious that the 6 is the clear winner, but the results could have changed significantly had the Altima been better equipped. Point, blank, period....we can't blame anyone but Nissan for it though. Replies to this message: madpistol (Sep 19, 2008 7:00 pm) gooddeal2 (Sep 19, 2008 7:42 pm)
#65 of 120 by ribbonspeakers Sep 18, 2008 (7:09 pm)
IMO so-called "features", in a very general sense, are one of the worst aspects of modern autos. No, not saying I dislike all features, but they always add at least some weight. There are very few to no "passive" features. Virtually every one must be powered when operated. That power requires a source, usually the motor. The more the features, the larger the alternator. The larger the alternator, the more fuel is consumed to power it. It's a vicious, endless cycle. I see & hope for a day soon coming when one of the more enlightened companies (Honda?) will spend millions of dollars for an ad campaign proudly announcing "FEWER FEATURES!" toward their goal of saving fuel. Just a thought.... Replies to this message: bvdj84 (Sep 18, 2008 7:24 pm) maltb (Sep 19, 2008 7:34 am)
#66 of 120 Re: [ribbonspeakers] by bvdj84 Sep 18, 2008 (7:24 pm)
Replying to: ribbonspeakers (Sep 18, 2008 7:09 pm) I saw a Mazda 6 in person today, I was impressed, and it was quite the car. Its pretty big, nice seats, fit and finish feels good. Very classy looking car! Love the red color they have.
#67 of 120 Re: [ribbonspeakers] by maltb Sep 19, 2008 (7:34 am)
Replying to: ribbonspeakers (Sep 18, 2008 7:09 pm) Good luck on your quest. Just don't expect much of a following.