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Article Comments - Mazda 6 vs. Honda Accord vs. Nissan Altima

120 messages,  Last post on Feb 27, 2009 at 2:31 PM

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Finding the Sweet Spot in Family Sedans - After all the poking, prodding, driving and scoring, the $30,690 2009 Mazda 6 s Grand Touring earns a total of 70.3 points in our comparison for a 1st-place finish. (more)


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Numbers by drive571
Sep 09, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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"Although some might complain that the new, larger 2009 Mazda 6 has lost some of the sport sedan flavor of its predecessor, a comparison with the turbocharged, all-wheel-drive Mazdaspeed 6 we last tested shows the '09 Mazda 6 s Grand Touring is only slightly less capable, yet far more livable."
 
Ah-ah-ah, Edmunds, you know better than to lead readers into that trap. Similar numbers do *NOT* mean similar driving enjoyment. If 0-60 times and skidpad figures told the whole story, a Lexus LS 460's performance would be as thrilling as a Porsche Boxster's, and an Elantra's handling would be as nimble as a first-generation Miata's.
 
The new 6 has more grip and more engine than the previous generation, but any honest editor knows it takes more than that for one car to be *more fun* than another.
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Where's the V6 Camry SE, o I forgot your haters! by gpmillar31
Sep 09, 2008 (6:27 pm)
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I love how insideline always forgets toyota's, and when you can, down toyota's. The camry se goes 0 to 60 in 5.8 seconds, it smokes the mazda 6. It's clear the mazda tried to copy the camry se styling. You guys think you know who is the best, but the sales show me that you don't know ****.
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Re: Where's the V6 Camry SE, o I forgot your haters! [gpmillar31] by m6user
Sep 09, 2008 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: gpmillar31 (Sep 09, 2008 6:27 pm)

First of all......
 
Yeah, everyone that posts here got together and did a write in campaign asking Edmunds to completely ignore the Camry in their comparo. Can't believe it worked. We'll start on the Altima next if it's ok with you.
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Re: Where's the V6 Camry SE, o I forgot your haters! [gpmillar31] by maxamillion1
Sep 09, 2008 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: gpmillar31 (Sep 09, 2008 6:27 pm)

the Mazda6 copied the Camry SE's styling? You do realize that the current Toyota Camry SE was panned from the very beginning for copying the first generation Mazda6 with Sports pkg.
 
If anything the Mazda6 looks more in line with the current Altima than anything sold over at Toyota, including the mighty Camry. And sales don't mean squat. The Chevrolet Celebrity used to be one of the best selling cars in america but it wasn't a better car than the Camry, Accord or Maxima back in the day.
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Re: Where's the V6 Camry SE, o I forgot your haters! [gpmillar31] by jeffyscott
Sep 10, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: gpmillar31 (Sep 09, 2008 6:27 pm)

The camry se goes 0 to 60 in 5.8 seconds
 
Drag racing is boring.
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Re: Where's the V6 Camry SE, o I forgot your haters! [jeffyscott] by bvdj84
Sep 10, 2008 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 10, 2008 5:44 am)

I went to look for the mazda6, and they did not have any on their lot. Are they in full force production yet?
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Re: [ribbonspeakers] by jeffyscott
Sep 10, 2008 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: ribbonspeakers (Sep 09, 2008 9:56 am)

The new 6 is closer to a Lexus than any Camry in regards to interior design/esthetics.
 
Ah, well when you say it is like a Lexus, I assume you mean with regard to driving it. But, a Lexus-like interior would be a big negative to me, also. For example fake or real wood is something I do not want in my car interior...obviously many do, however.
 
Mazda is, perhaps, targeting the luxury market now. Which is fine, but not somewhere I want to go.
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Re: [jeffyscott] by bvdj84
Sep 10, 2008 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 10, 2008 6:33 am)

Well I have noticed many new models are gearing more for luxury/sporty feel. Im with you on the wood trim, their are few cars that can pull it off well, depending on how its used and the quality of it. It looks a bit dated on an otherwise new car.
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Re: Where's the V6 Camry SE, o I forgot your haters! [gpmillar31] by mz6greyghost
Sep 10, 2008 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: gpmillar31 (Sep 09, 2008 6:27 pm)

It's clear the mazda tried to copy the camry se styling.
 
Right...
 
If anything, Mazda stayed away from the "me-too" aero-kit that the Camry SE is cursed with, and made a more flowing, pleasing overall design instead. And the current SE is a clear rip-off of the 1st-gen 6 with sports package they offered in '03-'05. Who's ripping off who?
 
You guys think you know who is the best, but the sales show me that you don't know ****.
 
Sales mean nothing, I repeat, NOTHING to a true car enthusiast that values steering, braking, and overall handling just as much as straight-line acceleration. The 1st-gen 6 was still the enthusiasts (and car magazine editors) pick despite it's lower sales and HP compared to the competition. And SE package or not, Toyota cannot say the same thing.
 
BTW, I've driven the Camry SE, and despite the faster straight-line performance, it's still a miserable apex-cutter. Tons of body roll and flex compared to the 1st-gen 6 that's my daily-driver. The suspension was soft, almost Buick-like, just like every other Camry I've been in, yet still jerked over pavement imperfections. The steering wheel felt like it was attached with string, giving NO feedback to the driver. The brakes felt mushy and faded quickly, and don't get me started about the vastly-inferior dash and park-bench-like seats.
 
Toyota may win in sales, but that's about all it wins in. IMO it doesn't get an Honorable Mention in ANY performance category that involves something other than an accelerator.

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