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#51 of 87 Re: Bad Ignition Coils & Evap Purge Valve failure - any relation?
Jun 10, 2010 (10:48 am)
Don't get me started. since I bought my 2002 A4 3.0L (brand new), I have spent $10,000 on repairs. That does not include the FREE repairs made under the initial warranty period which included a broken window motor on the driver's side (twice), all 6 ignition coils in 2003, left fan motor, windshield wiper motor (twice), windshield wiper linkage.
I will not go to the dealer if I can help it. They tried to convince me once that I was in dire need of new brake pads and did some very fast backpedaling after I reminded them that THEY had installed new pads 3 months earlier.
I now keep an Excel file of every repair on my car along with date and mileage.
My left bank catalytic converter failed about a year ago, along with the O2 sensors - this is the first time I've seen this linked to the ignition coils. I'd like to know more. That was an expensive repair even though it was not done by the dealer.
But I have another question - I had all the coils replaced last week at the dealer. 3 days later my check engine light came on and when I brought it back I was told that the Evap Purge Valve had failed. This seems like a real coincidence considering they had just serviced the car. Could these 2 issues be connected? It cost me $350 to get it fixed!
#52 of 87 Re: Bad Ignition Coils & Evap Purge Valve failure - any relation? [audi_bc53]
Jun 10, 2010 (11:51 am)
I guess I am not surprised that you have had some of the same repairs I have. But 2 windshield wiper motors to have failed is uncanny. I am now waiting for them to reimburse me for the $1200 I spent on ignition coils. My check engine light has been on for about 4 years, and no matter what repair they perform, it comes right back on. Ask your independent mechanic if there is a link between the IC issue and the valve. Too much of a very expensive coincidence there.
#53 of 87 Ignition coils
Jun 15, 2010 (8:14 pm)
I just got my 2003 A6 Quattro 3.0 today from the dealership and they replace the coils but the engine light is still on. They said that the engine light could still be on because of my catalytic converter. They want me to pay 120.00 to be diagnosis, when its seems like the catalytic converter is affected by the coils. Does the ignition coils affect the catalytic converter? And if it does shouldn't it be part of the recall that it needs to be replace or repair by Audi?
#54 of 87 ignition coils
Jun 15, 2010 (8:17 pm)
I saw this on mylemon.com:
"A note about driving the car with a failed coil pack: VWoA has told owners that driving the car may cause damage to the catalytic converter due to unused fuel contaminating the converter. There is also some speculation by B5.5 drivers that it's also possible the unused fuel will contaminate the oil on the cylinder wall and get past the rings. Thus, this may result in increased wear on the rings and cylinder wall; moreover, if the fuel enters the crank case the oil can be thinned which may lead to premature wear of bearings."
#55 of 87 Re: Ignition coils [basty28]
Jun 16, 2010 (1:52 am)
An independent mechanic told me my cat con issue was probably due to bad ic's. Audi is not taking any responsibility for this. I believe it will require another class action suit, like the timing belt. I paid $1200 for my cat con repair. My check engine light has still been on for about 4 years. One repair after another, and it is still on. (2002 A4 Quattro)
#56 of 87 Re: Bad Ignition Coils & Evap Purge Valve failure - any relation? [bjbrooks]
Jun 16, 2010 (3:24 am)
Good luck with the reimbursement. I had one of mine done by my mechanic (car was shaking so badly I didn't want to drive it to the dealer). I paid $155, which is probably half what Audi would have normally charged, and they reimbursed me $85.
#57 of 87 Re: Bad Ignition Coils & Evap Purge Valve failure - any relation? [audi_bc53]
Jun 16, 2010 (3:41 am)
One other note - my $10,000 in repairs over 8 years was primarily spent at a private, non-dealer garage. I paid $1500 for a timing belt and water pump - Audi wanted $2500. Catalytic Converter & O2 sensors $1600 vs $2000 quoted by Audi. Audi charged me $50 once to change a light bulb (30 minutes minimum labor charge). It goes on and on. I love my Audi but I hate the dealerships.
#58 of 87 Bad Ignition Coils=Failed Cat Con?
Jun 16, 2010 (10:58 am)
So my '02 A4 3.0 failed emissions due to a bad cat con. I had the car in Pep Boys a few months back and error codes 300/301/302/304/306 and PO432 all were present. When I asked the mechanic what needed to be done, he said we will just clear them and if the problem continues to bring it back...Well clearly the failed ignition coils did not fix themselves so here I am. Had I researched it before I would have fixed the problem then. Anyway, I called Audi regarding the Coil Recall and she said they will correct the problem at no charge, So I asked her since faulty coils and a misfiring engine cause a cat con to go bad, you will replace the cat con free of charge as well? She put me on hold, returned and said to take it to the dealer and if THEY determine the bad coils were the cause of the bad cat con they will replace it. So is there any way to prove that the coils that they have recalled caused my cat con to fail, other than the fact that cat cons fail when the engine misfires??????
#59 of 87 Bad ignition coils and catalytic converter
Jun 16, 2010 (4:46 pm)
The Audi dealership said to me that the catalytic converter is not a part of the recall even if it has be affected by the coils. They told me to call
1800822AUDI to talk to corporate. We all need to take this catalytic converter issue to corporate.
#60 of 87 Re: audi coils [mm2010]
Jun 17, 2010 (2:17 am)
i bought a 2007 Audi A4 quattro, and since then I spent $10000 fixing the vehicle. I repaired the camshaft, all 4 ignition coils, valves, including the turbo booster valves, fuel valves and a blown cylinder number 2, which including a blown intake manifold, this repair cost $5000, after this repair Audi sent me a letter for the ignition coil recall. I claimed the faulty ignition coil issue was a factor in my blown cylinder (and possible camshaft issue), however a Audi rep called me (non-tech qualified) and told me audi would not reimburse me for the cylinder repair because they said it was not related to the ignition coil issues. I argued that a faulty cylinder (due to a misfire via a faulty ignition coil) created a hot spot which resulted in a major engine failure, causing a major blow out in the intake manifold and blown cylinder. This repair was just months after I repaired the camshaft disaster.