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Re: Breakdown of costs [newcarbuyer12] by boomchek
Jul 02, 2009 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: newcarbuyer12 (Jul 02, 2009 5:34 am)

I can't tell you the breakdown unless I go into that dealership, and go into their computer and see all the details of the transaction in their accounting screen.
 
Dealerships can shuffle numbers around as well.
 
If they got more for your trade in from a wholesaler than the amount they showed you on paper, then the extra money will go into the deal as gross profit.
 
If we guess and say their cost on the new car was $28k, and a wholesale value of your car was $3k, then they would break even at $25k, and make a profit on anything over that.
 
So if you paid a difference of $26.5 then they made $1.5k on the deal.
 
The salesperson will get paid on the gross profit of the deal, in this case we're assuming profit would be $1.5k. Typically a salesperson's commission would be 20%-30% of the gross profit.
 
They could have lost money on your deal for all we know so in that case the salesman will get paid a flat most likely of $150.
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Re: Breakdown of costs [boomchek] by newcarbuyer12
Jul 02, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jul 02, 2009 9:55 am)

So if I reading your response correctly, the mix between new car cost and trade amount really doesn't matter much, the net is the amount that all interested parties care about. They could just as easily said that I paid $26.5K for the car but only got a dollar for the trade.
 
That's what I was thinking, but then I started to wonder if the purchase and sales was giving a little insight into actual costs. I'd been wondering if I had over estimated the value of my trade, which wouldn't surprise me too much. However if the $1.5K for the trade is what the dealer thought it was really worth, then I got a much better than expected deal on the new car. Unfortunately I highly doubt my negotiation skills are good enough to pull that off.
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Re: Breakdown of costs [newcarbuyer12] by boomchek
Jul 02, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: newcarbuyer12 (Jul 02, 2009 12:11 pm)

the mix between new car cost and trade amount really doesn't matter much, the net is the amount that all interested parties care about
 
When negotiating, yes, that's all that matters. To the dealer though it does matter eventually where the money goes, but that's behind the scenes stuff that would be looked at after.
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Dealer shipping charges by donmckinley
Jul 05, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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I'm considering buying a car from a dealer out of state. They tell me they're about to sell and ship the car to a different dealer if I don't beat the offer from this other dealer. Sounds fine. My question is this. When dealer A sells and ships to dealer B, who pays the freight? Do I have any bargaining room here if I agree to pay freight if I purchase the car?
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Re: Dealer shipping charges [donmckinley] by volvomax
Jul 06, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: donmckinley (Jul 05, 2009 12:22 pm)

Purchasing delaer usually pay the freight.
You pay it one way or the other. Either up front, or in the price of the car. Makes no differnce.
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Re: Dealer shipping charges [donmckinley] by volvomax
Jul 06, 2009 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: donmckinley (Jul 05, 2009 12:22 pm)

Purchasing delaer usually pay the freight.
You pay it one way or the other. Either up front, or in the price of the car. Makes no differnce.
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used car return by elias5
Jul 06, 2009 (6:50 pm)
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if i purchased a used vehicle in nyc 1 day ago and i dont want it anymore can i return it
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Re: used car return [elias5] by jb_turner
Jul 06, 2009 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: elias5 (Jul 06, 2009 6:50 pm)

No.
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Re: used car return [jb_turner] by verdugo
Jul 06, 2009 (7:50 pm)
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Replying to: jb_turner (Jul 06, 2009 7:20 pm)

Hmm, sounds like a troll to me ... elias not jb_tuner
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Re: used car return [verdugo] by jb_turner
Jul 06, 2009 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: verdugo (Jul 06, 2009 7:50 pm)

Yea I think I fell into the troll trap....

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