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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [sabre52270] by golic
Apr 22, 2009 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: sabre52270 (Apr 22, 2009 7:33 am)

I am sure this will be no different than other retailers. During these processes a trustee or appointed 3rd party is in charge of the liquidation of the merchandise. Their objective is to maximize cash for the creditors. Don't expect rock bottom prices.
 
I was following the Circuit City liquidation and most people commented that there were really no "deals" to be had.
 
Prices may go down after 30-60-90 days, but you choices are limited to what is available and don't expect any breaks from a non-existent service department if something breaks!
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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [sabre52270] by dtownfb
Apr 22, 2009 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: sabre52270 (Apr 22, 2009 6:23 am)

Here's an article that talks about the dealers and the possibility of bankruptcy: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090420/ANA06/304209968/1197- /FRONTPAGE
 
Here's the first part of the article that deals with the dealerships's inventory:

Bankruptcy fears rattle dealers
Retailers get ready for GM and Chrysler filings
 
Jamie LaReau
and Bradford Wernle
Automotive News
April 20, 2009 - 12:01 am ET
 
DETROIT — The growing likelihood that General Motors and Chrysler LLC will land in Bankruptcy Court has sent a wave of fear through U.S. auto dealers.
 
Many GM and Chrysler dealers are protecting themselves by cutting inventory and factory orders. GM and Chrysler desperately need orders, but dealers are holding back because the automakers are in such bad shape.
 
Dealers also are speeding up reimbursement requests to the automakers on warranty work and cash rebates for fear that the money could be tied up in court. And some are spending advertising money from the factories for the same reason.
 
"We're SOL if GM goes BK," said Chevrolet dealer Larry Dimmitt.
 
Dimmitt, who owns Dimmitt Chevrolet in Clearwater, Fla., ordered some GM vehicles in February because he wanted the cash incentives of up to $1,250 per vehicle. Now he regrets it.
 
Dimmitt said he thought the market would open up but "it hasn't — it's gotten worse."
 
He estimates his days' supply is five to six months at his current sales rate of about 15 a month. He has stopped ordering new vehicles from GM.
 
As of April 13 Dimmitt had sold only seven new vehicles this month. He was hoping for 20 sales by midmonth. Early in this decade, he said, he would sell about 65 new vehicles by midmonth.
 
If a manufacturer files for Chapter 11 protection from creditors, the value of inventory will plummet. With an automaker in Bankruptcy Court, floorplan lenders want their dealer customers to have minimal inventory to reduce their risk.
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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [golic] by boomchek
Apr 22, 2009 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: golic (Apr 22, 2009 7:46 am)

I agree with you Golic. A third party would step in and sell off assets.
 
My opinion:
 
Say that GM/Chrysler/Ford goes chapter 7 bankrupt, and a third party is appointed to sell off assets. I think any unsold cars on dealers' lots would remain there, and the dealers would have to swallow the losses in values on them since they already purchased them.
 
Any inventory not sold to dealers from the factory would probably be liquidated via auto auctions or another method. I'd expect heavily discounted pricing to offset limited after sales servicing support for these vehicles. I wouldn't be surprised if you'd see up to 50% off factory sticker prices.
 
The people buying up these units, maybe even in bulk could be corporate, or municipal fleet departments who do their own in house servicing anyways, and don't need too much of dealer service support. You'd see a lot going to rental companies, as they'd get their return on the small investment back fairly quickly, and maybe some dealers with liquid assets would pick up some here and there to sell on their lots. I wouldn't even be surprised if some small used car dealers pick up a few leftover new units too from the auctions. Also you'd see a few liquidator type places pop up and sell any units to the public too that they would have picked up in bulk at the auctions.
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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [golic] by imidazol97
Apr 23, 2009 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: golic (Apr 22, 2009 7:46 am)

>I was following the Circuit City liquidation and most people commented that there were really no "deals" to be had.
 
The companies employed to liquidate often bring in their own and other merchanise. They are in business to make money, not to save the end buyer money.
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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [imidazol97] by jayrider
Apr 23, 2009 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Apr 23, 2009 5:44 am)

If GM goes bankrupt everything will be resolved quickly. Other than some dealerships closing everything will look the same to consumers. No big sell off of cars or anything like that. The changes will be swift at the corporate level and the work force will be reorganized. The service and warranty work will continue seamlessly and cars will be on the lots for sale. GM is not Circuit City. This would be a very special bankruptcy -- unprecedented with intense federal oversight. My opinion.
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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [jayrider] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 23, 2009 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: jayrider (Apr 23, 2009 6:23 am)

Probably accurate. This is going to be such a fast bankruptcy that it will be like that old "fastest gun in the West" joke. You won't even see GM's hands move.
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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [Mr_Shiftright] by fezo
Apr 23, 2009 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Apr 23, 2009 7:13 am)

Ah! So we're talking Gene Wilder here!
 
Let's have a hand for the Waco Kid....
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Re: Bankruptcy and Dealers [fezo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 23, 2009 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: fezo (Apr 23, 2009 11:46 am)

That's right pard' , except in this case the speed of it is not meant for laughs, but rather to keep buyers from freaking out.
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Chrysler first to fall? by golic
Apr 23, 2009 (12:50 pm)
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Looks like we will find out soon ---The Times is reporting that the Obama administration will file to put Chrylser into bankruptcy next week.
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Re: Chrysler first to fall? [golic] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Apr 23, 2009 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: golic (Apr 23, 2009 12:50 pm)

Well they're bleeding money so fast it's either that or the whole thing collapses. Despite what the free market utopians might think, having huge industrial and financial institutions crash into a smoldering heap overnight is just not a good idea. It's not the academic economist or think tank pundits who lose their jobs. This is one time I actually believe in the "domino theory".

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