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Replying to: cdn_tch (Jan 20, 2009 10:53 am) One thing you can do is "advanced search" in autotrader, whereby you narrow down the cars you are looking at in terms of say mileage limits for one thing, or automatic vs. manual shift. You can also enter "keywords" into advanced search. Then, once you hit "search" and get say 15 cars nationwide with under 100,000 miles with automatic transmission and trimmed in the LS or EXT or whatever level, --- if you then look at the bottom of the page you'll see a High, Low and AVERAGE price for all the cars you've been shown. This average price is, IMO, very close to market value---once you have the average price, just deduct another 5-10% since these are asking prices. |
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Replying to: cdn_tch (Jan 20, 2009 10:53 am) I'm in Vancouver BC. I might be able to give you an idea of price range. |
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Replying to: boomchek (Jan 20, 2009 1:14 pm) I've been checking out some posted vehicles against Kelly Black Book online and the dealers here are generally asking 50-60% over top blackbook price. At what point does it change from a fair deal to a 'clubbing'?
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Replying to: cdn_tch (Jan 21, 2009 8:04 pm) If you see all smiliar models in the same range, then that's just what the market is. Sometimes we will pay over book for "hot" cars that we know we can flip quickly and make some decent money on. CRVs, and RAV4s will always fetch a premium, even though the CRV I think is rated for only 1500LBS towing capacity. Mazda Tribute and it's twin the Ford Escape are more down to earth in pricing, but keep in mind some older Ford and Mazda trucks/SUVs only had a short 3 year/60k powertrain warranty, unlike their cars whihc had a normal 5 year/100k warranty. The Jeep Patriot is a decent SUV but you won't get much towing done in one. The Equinoxes and Saturn Vues should be more normally priced too, as they have low book values relative to the imports. Another decent one that we can't keep on the lot because they sell really fast is the Jeep Liberty, especially the Renegade edition. They are all 3.7L V6s however and will consume a little more gas than a 4 banger. But they came out in 03 I think, up to 07 before being redesigned. I'd stay away from the old Blazers and Jimmies. They're inexpensive but they are really outdated and will guzzle a lot of gas with their big 4,3L V6. Any Subarus are good too, but they carry a price premium, and might get pricey to fix later on. Last but not least, look at a Nissan X Trail. Fuel efficient 4 cylinder, and lots of space. They sort of have a cult following. If you can get past the centre mounted gauge cluster, then they make a decent crossover too for a decent price. Good luck |
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Replying to: cdn_tch (Jan 21, 2009 8:04 pm) It's a Honda and doesn't break. Road comfort is very good with its aggressive treaded tires. It's full-time all wheel drive.
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Local Ford dealership is closing at the end of January so I went by the other day to check on a Flex/Taurus X. They had a few in stock but were not prepared to go lower than the standard Employee Pricing Plus Cash. I already had quotes from another local Ford dealer for lower but they not interested in going any lower. I'm not in a huge rush to buy right now so I don't really care. They said their new stock will go back to Ford and their used to a wholesaler should they not sell by the end of next week. A bit strange I thought.
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Replying to: fatherted (Jan 22, 2009 11:35 am)
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Replying to: cdn_tch (Jan 21, 2009 8:04 pm) I guess it's the same all over. Here, (upstate NY) they ask 2-3K over KBB retail prices. I just don't get the "home run" mentality. BTW, here it's called Kelley Blue Book.
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