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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [volvomax] by snakeweasel
Jan 07, 2009 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 07, 2009 12:22 pm)

They may own the car outright but it is still costing them money to keep the car on the lot. Either they borrowed the money to buy the car outright and they are paying interest on that money or they sink their own money into it and its not available to use for other things that will make money for the dealership.
 
Say its a $20K car and they could have sold it for a $2K loss two years ago. Wouldn't it make more sense to take the $2K loss and use the $18K to build up inventory that sells faster and earn $2K or more in two years or keep it for two years and still have $20K sunk in something that doesn't move?
 
Sometimes you have to take a loss and take it early.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [snakeweasel] by volvomax
Jan 07, 2009 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 07, 2009 3:08 pm)

It's a very old debate.
Most dealers won't take a loss at all if they can help it.
Even if it means sitting on inventory.
If you have $3-5 million wrapped up in inventory, $20k isn't gonna make you or break you.
However, taking losses on cars can and does get sales managers fired.
Owners don't mind spending $$ on inventory. They DO mind it when you take a hit.
 
Sales managers know this, hence the tendency to keep a car until you get what you want for it.
 
These are new 07's in question, and sometimes you simply don't have a customer.
Even if you do want to take a small loss.
You can't do anything until you have a buyer.
We had a leftover 07 XC90 until July 08. no buyer interested in the car.
Finally, we found someone who paid what we wanted. We got out of the car, no loss.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [volvomax] by explorerx4
Jan 07, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 07, 2009 5:22 pm)

was there any reward for whomever sold it, or was the message 'it's about damn time', or nobody really noticed?
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [explorerx4] by volvomax
Jan 08, 2009 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Jan 07, 2009 5:36 pm)

No, we had a nice flat on the car.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [volvomax] by explorerx4
Jan 09, 2009 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 08, 2009 7:53 am)

thanks for the answer to my question.
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Quick Question by oldfarmer50
Jan 10, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Which of two identical cars would you consider to be worth more, A car with 100K with original motor or a car with 100K which had the motor rebuilt at 80K?
 
I have my own ideas but I'm just curious what the rest of the world thinks.
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Re: Quick Question [oldfarmer50] by joel0622
Jan 10, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 9:47 am)

I would take door #2 depending on who did the rebuild
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Re: Quick Question [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 9:47 am)

If you are talking about relatively modern cars which are not specialty-built or exotic in any way, then there's no difference in value IMO since every used car is supposed to have a motor in it that's functioning; so you don't 'enhance' the value by putting in a rebuilt (although it might make a good "selling point").
 
Rebuilts have their own risk after all----who did the rebuild, did they disturb various parts of the car, etc.
 
Rebuilts also bring up doubts ----what's with these engines that they need rebuilding in 80K miles?
 
So the "advantage' of the rebuilt is offset by the unmolested qualities of an original untouched motor.
 
EXCEPTION: If it were 200K on a car with original engine, versus a rebuilt motor at 180K, I might think differently, but even there, the value would not be all that much.
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Re: Quick Question [oldfarmer50] by tidester HOST
Jan 10, 2009 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 9:47 am)

Depending on the make/model, I would go with the car that has the original engine. My suspicion would be that the previous owner of the one with the rebuilt engine drove the car pretty hard.
 
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Re: Quick Question [oldfarmer50] by boomchek
Jan 10, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 10, 2009 9:47 am)

I'd probably take the original motor at 80k miles, but a rebuilt motor at 200k miles like tidester said.
 
It's very hard to verify what exactly was rebuilt in a motor, and if it was done properly unless paperwork is shown.

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