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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [boomchek] by oldfarmer50
Jan 06, 2009 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jan 06, 2009 1:13 pm)

"...so they can minimize their losses..."
 
Farmers have a saying "Your first loss is your best loss" meaning it is better to get rid of a depreciating asset like tomatoes (or cars) sooner rather than later. I never understood the logic of keeping a lot queen around forever as it loses value.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 06, 2009 2:47 pm)

it doesn't rot like a tomato?
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [oldfarmer50] by snakeweasel
Jan 06, 2009 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 06, 2009 2:47 pm)

I never understood the logic of keeping a lot queen around forever as it loses value.
 
Not only does it lose value it also costs the dealership to keep it in inventory.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [Mr_Shiftright] by oldfarmer50
Jan 06, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jan 06, 2009 3:04 pm)

"...it doesn't rot like a tomato..."
 
Leave it on the lot long enough and it will stink to high heaven.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [boomchek] by explorerx4
Jan 06, 2009 (4:59 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jan 06, 2009 1:13 pm)

i bought my '07 fusion in march of '08. it was built in 12-06.
the dealer had 4 of the exact same car until about a week before i bought mine.
someone bought 1 of the 4, then i bought mine.
of course a couple of weeks after i bought mine, the incentives got better.
i remember it, but i don't really think about the extra money i could have saved.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jan 06, 2009 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jan 06, 2009 4:53 pm)

I think the national average right now for lot time is about 70 days more or less.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [mursilis] by volvomax
Jan 07, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: mursilis (Jan 06, 2009 12:52 pm)

Most likely, those cars have been paid off, so the dealer owns them outright.
Dealers, like everyone else, hate losing money.
Since they own the cars already, they can wait for the right buyer.
There is an axiom in the car biz that there is an a$$ for every seat.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [volvomax] by snakeweasel
Jan 07, 2009 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 07, 2009 12:22 pm)

They may own the car outright but it is still costing them money to keep the car on the lot. Either they borrowed the money to buy the car outright and they are paying interest on that money or they sink their own money into it and its not available to use for other things that will make money for the dealership.
 
Say its a $20K car and they could have sold it for a $2K loss two years ago. Wouldn't it make more sense to take the $2K loss and use the $18K to build up inventory that sells faster and earn $2K or more in two years or keep it for two years and still have $20K sunk in something that doesn't move?
 
Sometimes you have to take a loss and take it early.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [snakeweasel] by volvomax
Jan 07, 2009 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jan 07, 2009 3:08 pm)

It's a very old debate.
Most dealers won't take a loss at all if they can help it.
Even if it means sitting on inventory.
If you have $3-5 million wrapped up in inventory, $20k isn't gonna make you or break you.
However, taking losses on cars can and does get sales managers fired.
Owners don't mind spending $$ on inventory. They DO mind it when you take a hit.
 
Sales managers know this, hence the tendency to keep a car until you get what you want for it.
 
These are new 07's in question, and sometimes you simply don't have a customer.
Even if you do want to take a small loss.
You can't do anything until you have a buyer.
We had a leftover 07 XC90 until July 08. no buyer interested in the car.
Finally, we found someone who paid what we wanted. We got out of the car, no loss.
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Re: Why are some dealers still hanging on to 2007 inventory? [volvomax] by explorerx4
Jan 07, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Jan 07, 2009 5:22 pm)

was there any reward for whomever sold it, or was the message 'it's about damn time', or nobody really noticed?

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