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Re: Am I going to get in trouble asking a sales question here? [mikefm58] by kdhspyder
Sep 12, 2008 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Sep 06, 2008 5:13 am)

There is nothing unethical about the customer giving a gift of $500 to anyone he or she pleases. It's just a gift. It's not like the recipient minimized or reduced the benefit to the dealership. In fact because of the especially good salesman the OP returned to that store, bought a nice vehicle and is presumably happy.
 
The Sales Manager should be thankful that that sales person is still around.. what if he had left for another store and the OP decided to buy over there because of his presence.
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Re: Am I going to get in trouble asking a sales question here? [kdhspyder] by snakeweasel
Sep 15, 2008 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Sep 12, 2008 12:02 pm)

There is nothing unethical about the customer giving a gift of $500 to anyone he or she pleases.
 
Unethical or not what may it appear to a third party. My profession strongly discourages anything that may appear improper. An example is during the tax season I do someones taxes and since the resulting fees seem high I give a discount. Now the client likes my work and how I delt with him and gives me a $20 tip I cannot take it. That is because someone may see all this and presume that I am pocketing $20 of the fee and reducing the fee on the system. (yes someone was actually doing that last year)
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Re: Am I going to get in trouble asking a sales question here? [snakeweasel] by greanpea68
Sep 15, 2008 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Sep 15, 2008 2:18 pm)

That is because someone may see all this and presume that I am pocketing $20 of the fee and reducing the fee on the system. (yes someone was actually doing that last year)
 
That is the same thing here in the car business. It is the salesman job to create as much profit for the store as possible. The store would much rather give the salesman his percentage of that profit. $500....
 
In the old days and I am sure it still happens today. A salesman says give me $500 cash and I will subtract $1000 from the price. The only thing really happening is the customer is only financing a Thousand less. (this only works in finance deals). Stay with me Jip you are a accountant. So instead of selling it at $20,000 now we are selling it at $19,000 and that is what you are financing. Now a manager has to be in on it because the manager has to approve the deal. The $500 never gets shown on the paperwork. The salesman and the manager who approved the deal split the $500. Now the owner has people stealing from him.
 
True story.
 
GP
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okay you guys, chew on this one by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 29, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Could I have your professional opinions on this question posed in our Answers department, or your reactions, or advice or whatever?
 
http://answers.edmunds.com/question-How-negative-equity-dealer-take-30628.aspx
 
thank you!
 
Shifty, Visiting Host
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Re: okay you guys, chew on this one [Mr_Shiftright] by madmanmoo
Sep 29, 2008 (10:15 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 29, 2008 9:05 am)

Nice job. That guy just got blasted with information to chew on, lol. Did he tell you how much he owed on each, Shifty?
 
Edit: Never mind. I just reread his question and saw it in there. Ya, he's murdered in those trades.
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Black Book by stickyman
Sep 29, 2008 (10:30 am)
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This past weekend, my daughter tried to purchase a new car and when she asked what her used 2007 TSX was worth, the dealer showed her "Black Book" pricing that was about $1,500.00 lower than Edmunds. What is this Black Book? and
is it another way of trying to rip people off?
Thanks
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Re: okay you guys, chew on this one [madmanmoo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 29, 2008 (10:40 am)
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Replying to: madmanmoo (Sep 29, 2008 10:15 am)

He's so far down in the Audi...good grief!
 
Would a dealer even make a deal like this, blending two negative equity trade-ins, into a new car. That would work out to something like carrying over $15,000 debt and adding it to a $30,000 new car loan, for a $45K total?
 
Do dealers actually work deals like this?
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Re: okay you guys, chew on this one [Mr_Shiftright] by boomchek
Sep 29, 2008 (11:14 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 29, 2008 10:40 am)

We'll work it as long as the bank approves, the customer says yes, and we make some money.
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Re: okay you guys, chew on this one [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas
Sep 29, 2008 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Sep 29, 2008 9:05 am)

You gave him good advise. These people are hopelessly buried beyond belief.
 
And a 2001 Audi? Just wait until this troubleprone car starts killing them in repair bills.
 
Oh and a house about to foreclose?
 
Nevermind what I was about to say!

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