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#2917 of 3219 Re: Internet Sales is a myth? [qbrozen]
Feb 29, 2012 (11:59 am)
I have had good luck with dealers who I know utilize truecar, but if you use TrueCar to get a price and contact the dealer, you are leaving money on the table from the get-go, since they charge ~$300 or so to the dealer for the lead.
#2918 of 3219 price question help please
Mar 03, 2012 (5:15 pm)
Hi, I do not wish to insult dealers, but want to negotiate from the a market price. I am looking at a 2012 Acura tl, Edmund's TMV says 33,900 or so, but for March they list 1750 dealer incentive Am I correct I can deduct this from the Edmund TMV as an offer price? Thank you
#2919 of 3219 Re: price question help please [cu503]
Mar 03, 2012 (8:49 pm)
Seriously doubt you could insult a dealer. Offer invoice minus $1750 and see what they say. TL isn't a hot seller so you never know. BTW if you offer invoice minus $1750 I'm sure they will counter offer. Would be interesting to know what they offer.
#2920 of 3219 Re: price question help please [cu503]
by kirstie_h HOST
Mar 05, 2012 (11:05 am)
This is just a simple business deal - unless you're going to make disparaging personal remarks, the dealer shouldn't be insulted by your offer, and you shouldn't be insulted if they reject it.
You want a car. They want to sell you a car. If the offer you make is doable, they'll say yes... BUT, maybe not right away.
Your best bet is to go in with a number that you feel comfortable with. You don't need to explain how you came up with that number; in fact, I suggest that you do not. Stick to that number, and say this is the max I'm willing to pay. If they do not agree to your number, thank them for their time, and leave. You may be chased as you're trying to leave, or you may receive a phone call a bit later stating they can meet your price. Or, you may not hear from them again.
If you don't, you might try the same offer at another dealership. If you can't get to your number there, then you've probably picked a number that's too low, and you'll need to make another offer.
#2921 of 3219 Re: price question help please [kirstie_h]
Mar 09, 2012 (7:23 pm)
That is very close to the classic bobst method - except he put a whole lot of worry into his exact number to offer. Worked for him.
#2922 of 3219 Re: price question help please [fezo]
Mar 10, 2012 (2:30 am)
Where or where is our bobst? Wasn't he from Florida, so he shouldn't have retired to there...
#2923 of 3219 Re: price question help please [bolivar]
by kyfdx HOST
Mar 10, 2012 (7:40 am)
I think bobst was from Virginia...
#2924 of 3219 Re: price question help please [kyfdx]
Mar 11, 2012 (7:30 pm)
bobst was suburban DC. I thought Maryland but it could be Virginia. After he stopped posting in here and people started wondering I looked him up and asked.
Turns out he indeed retired at which point he was too busy playing golf and such to keep posting so the advice in here to our working stiffs is to keep working because we enjoy your company!
bobst liked that we remembered him. Incidentally, a part of the main hospital at Memorial Sloan Kettering is the Bobst pavilion. I think of him every time I see that.
#2925 of 3219 Re: Internet Sales is a myth? [qbrozen]
Mar 12, 2012 (6:19 pm)
Maybe it's because I'm in NY, but I'm sensing a trend in "Internet Sales Managers." I'm looking to buy two trucks at the same time, so I've looked at a lot of cars lately. I sent out requests for two brands at 6 different dealers and I have yet to talk to a guy. Not one!
And they all seem to have, um...unusual names. It can't be a coincidence that when a guy is shopping on the internet, he gets contacted by 6 women with names like Tiffany, Chastity, Tatiana, Alexa, (not making those up). Somehow, they all want me to come into the dealership to meet them, too. (Even if it mattered what the salesperson looked like, I suspect I'd be quickly handed off to someone else with a deeper voice and a y chromosome.)
Haven't gotten a single quote yet, but lots of emails, phone calls and nuisance. One was so patronizing. She said she hadn't heard from me in a while (3 whole days!), and that she knows how car buying is so stressful, and she was there to help. I responded saying, thanks, but the encouragement would be more helpful if it included a quote on the car. She handed me off to another girl with a similar name and an exotic accent. Still no quote.
My advice is to visit a few of the dealers in your area with 5 star ratings, pick your salesman if you can, and then get them to quote by email. You'll build a relationship and learn whether the salesman is worth your business. Worked for me. Now I'm just toying with these "Sales Managers" playing the same tricks they play ("better hurry, I'm signing this week...").
#2926 of 3219 Re: Internet Sales is a myth? [cabanadan]
Mar 12, 2012 (7:32 pm)
wouldn't it be easier, and a whole lot quicker, to just go in the dealership, decide which truck you want, then strike a deal? Given how long you have been playing the game, it doesn't seem like you are in any hurry though!