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Re: Verify... [Mr_Shiftright] by imidazol97
Nov 02, 2009 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 02, 2009 6:41 am)

>dealer gets from the body shop are $499 for some odd reason
 
Now dealers wouldn't have body shop underprice repair work to circumvent the law? Would they? Huh? No, don't tell me they're not 100% truthful...
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Re: Used Car [oldfarmer50] by british_rover
Nov 02, 2009 (6:54 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 02, 2009 6:45 am)

Scions are still all built outside of the US right?
 
In that case the two items will be arrived at Port, and will probably list the location of the port, and shipped to original dealer. Carfax generally runs 90 plus days behind present day so the registration of this car probably won't show up yet.
 
Every used Volvo on our lot has those two notations on the carfax and they both appear before it was ever registered.
 
I would want to see the actual title of this car to confirm it was registered and is a real used car.
 
If it is a real used car just keep in mind that if it is a used car you most likely have no lemon law recourse. Some states do have some lemon law protections for used cars but they are less then new cars.
 
That being said it is a Scion so probably won't have any real problems anyway. Consumer Reports says that Scion is the most reliable new car brand right now, full disclosure I don't think that is true and other data sets back up my opinion, but even if Scion isn't the most reliable new car brand it is still above average.
 
Oh and the average of new cars right now is very, very good so being above average in the present day means the car is performing at a much higher level then even the best built cars 10 years ago.
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Re: Used Car [oldfarmer50] by isellhondas
Nov 02, 2009 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 02, 2009 6:45 am)

Car Fax does this so you'll pay to see the report.
 
The history items are usually nothing.
 
Bottom line, If you are afraid of the car, pay an extra 2000.00 and simply buy a new one!
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Re: Used Car [isellhondas] by deltheking
Nov 02, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (Nov 02, 2009 7:27 am)

For 2k more, I would get this used one. But if someone was scared that there is no lemon law recourse,then a new one is better. But the factory warr would still be in place. So I think this depends on the original poster`s comfort level and whether he/she really wants to save 2k for a used titled car with 50 miles,assuming everything checks out OK. And Scions are very reliable. So ,a matter of personal preference really now.
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Re: heck of a paragraph there [eric2112] by boomchek
Nov 02, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: eric2112 (Oct 31, 2009 11:34 pm)

If you're not comfortable with the dealership's process, then wait until you have the draft in hand before taking the vehicle home. Why stress yourself out?
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Re: Used Car [oldfarmer50] by boomchek
Nov 02, 2009 (10:47 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 01, 2009 2:41 pm)

Keep in mind a "lemon buyback" would have lots of mileage on it, I'm guessing at least a few thousand miles in order for it's problems to materialize, be fixed, sent home again, and return to the shop, as well as having been on diagnostic test drives with the technicians.
 
So one with 10 miles it's pretty much impossible that it's a lemon buyback.
 
New cars that fell off the truck don't necessarily have to be titled, they can be sold as new with declared damage.
 
So in this case a new car with 10 miles could have been one won in a contest, where the winner would go to the dealership to claim it, and then immediately sell it back to them without even stepping foot in it. In this case it would have been titled once making it a used car.
 
Maybe in a case like this cash wasn't an option in the contest (no prize substitutions etc...) and that's why the process that created this "used" car.
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Re: Used Car [boomchek] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 02, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 02, 2009 10:47 am)

Those are all good reasons.... So, shouldn't be too hard to find out..
 
If the dealer doesn't have an explanation, or doesn't want to give one.... that would raise a big red flag with me..
 
I have no problem buying a used car and saving $2K... But, cars with 10 miles sold as used seems unusual... If it were an '08 Chrysler Crossfire, or a model that had $5K of dealer cash on it in July, it would make perfect sense... But, why would a dealer take a $2K hit on a what is essentially a new Scion? Because it's titled? Seems excessive..
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Re: Used Car [boomchek] by british_rover
Nov 02, 2009 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 02, 2009 10:47 am)

So in this case a new car with 10 miles could have been one won in a contest, where the winner would go to the dealership to claim it, and then immediately sell it back to them without even stepping foot in it. In this case it would have been titled once making it a used car.
  
Maybe in a case like this cash wasn't an option in the contest (no prize substitutions etc...) and that's why the process that created this "used" car.

 
Ha we have a dodge ram on the lot right now that was one of those.
 
The original owner won it in a raffle of some sort but never titled it. It just sat in his driveway for a few months before he sold it to a friend who did title it. So now it is a 2005 Dodge ram with one real owner as it was only titled in the second guys name and has about 30,000 miles on it.
 
Super base car though V6 six speed manual and crank windows.
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Re: Used Car [british_rover] by boomchek
Nov 02, 2009 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Nov 02, 2009 11:08 am)

I figure most folks would take cash over cars they won in contests. Obviously so much more you can do with cash, unless you have a ton of cash already and the car is a "fun toy" you can keep for the weekends.
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Re: Used Car [kyfdx] by tjc78
Nov 02, 2009 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 02, 2009 10:54 am)

I have no problem buying a used car and saving $2K
 
With so many financing deals, in some cases the slightly used car financed at 6 or 7% would actually have a higher payment than the new one with 0 or 1.9%.
 
Example car with 0% (almost any GM these days) 5 year loan.
 
Brand new: $20,000 financed = $333.33 / month
Low mileage used $18,000 financed at 6% = $347.99
(Even if you got it for $17,000 its $328.66/month)
 
Really a no brainer in this case. The used car would be best for a cash buyer or a lot of money to put down.

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