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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [vangiebx] by micosilver
Jul 15, 2009 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: vangiebx (Jul 15, 2009 8:19 am)

You are not clear about your initial agreement:
Did the salesman say that the sale price is $16,995 AFTER the rebate?
Or:
The sale price is $16,995 MINUS the rebate?
If you agreed to the price of $16,995, and they informed you that the price is after rebate - than all is good, you are supposed to pay taxes on a car before the rebate.
It sound like you didn't understand the offer clearly, but this is how is works: you have to pay taxes and fees before the rebate is subtracted.
It is legal.
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hyundai by stickguy
Jul 15, 2009 (9:41 am)
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You paid 18,500 for the car, and paid tax on that amount.
 
THe $1,500 was subtracted at the end to get you don to the 16,995.
 
rebates are taxed, so he did the correct thing.
 
The bigger question is, are you happy paying $500 off MSRP for the car to the dealer (the rebate comes from Hyundai)?
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [newcarbuyer12] by newcarbuyer12
Jul 15, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: newcarbuyer12 (Jul 15, 2009 9:16 am)

I just looked up the rebates on the Hyundai web site and $1,500 is the right amount for the Touring version of the Elantra, so ignore my comment about it being $2,000. That's for a different version of the Elantra.
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [newcarbuyer12] by boomchek
Jul 15, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: newcarbuyer12 (Jul 15, 2009 9:16 am)

Yes most reabtes are deducted after taxes are added on.
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [boomchek] by ldisler
Jul 15, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jul 15, 2009 10:43 am)

I know in NJ you pay tax after all rebates and trade value are subtracted. This is
the only time I've seen were NJ charges less tax, otherwise we're taxed out the wazoo.
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [ldisler] by british_rover
Jul 15, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: ldisler (Jul 15, 2009 12:16 pm)

You don't have property taxes on your cars either right?
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [vangiebx] by joel0622
Jul 15, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: vangiebx (Jul 15, 2009 8:19 am)

Nope they are being straight up with you.
 
back in the days before the internet and a 1000 programs the standard close was that you would tell a customer you will sell him the car for invoice including rebates. If it was a $1000 rebate then you automaticly had a $1000 deal because you would add $1000 back to the price, tax it, then subtract the $1000 again.
 
Really not a deceptive practice, just an easy way to close a deal. You were doing exactly what you promised. Buying the car for invoice including rebates.
 
That was back in the days when you negotiated from list down. Does not apply any more now that we negotiate from invoice down.
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [newcarbuyer12] by vangiebx
Jul 15, 2009 (2:22 pm)
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Replying to: newcarbuyer12 (Jul 15, 2009 9:16 am)

Thanks for your input newcarbuyer12. The dealer offered the car for $16,995 and then said a rebate would be deducted. My last question is do I have to take the rebate? It is not helping me it is just adding to the cost of the car. Thanks again for your info.
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [vangiebx] by deltheking
Jul 15, 2009 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: vangiebx (Jul 15, 2009 2:22 pm)

Taking the rebate is definitely cheaper.Say the rebate in your case is 1500 and say the tax is 10%.So you pay an extra 150 for the 1500 rebate and so you save 1500-150=1350.
So how are you saving by not taking the rebate?
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Re: Please help I think I'm being scammed!! [vangiebx] by boomchek
Jul 15, 2009 (3:17 pm)
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Replying to: vangiebx (Jul 15, 2009 2:22 pm)

How's it adding to the cost of the car? You're paying less.
 
$16995 plus tax minus rebate. However you put it you save $1500 off the total price.

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