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Honda Insight, Hybrid Cars, Hatchback
#40 of 237 Re: Insight vs. Fit [rookie60]
Feb 07, 2009 (9:21 am)
At 15,000 miles a year and 30 mpg average for the Fit and 40 for the Insight (both pretty conservative I think), it will take about 8 years to make up the $2000 difference when gas is $2 a gallon. But if gas goes back to $4 a gallon, as it was not long ago, then it's just 4 years to recoup the difference. I have a feeling Honda is betting gas won't stay at $2 a gallon for very long. I would take that bet also.
#41 of 237 Re: Insight vs. Fit [backy]
Feb 07, 2009 (9:56 am)
I have a friend who has a Honda Fit. He is Mr. gas mileage. He is the most conservative driver around. He said he gets 31 mpg for combined (mostly city) driving. I have heard 49-52 for the Insight but that is only speculation at this point. I will know more in May. It doesn't take a genius to know that when China and other countries wanting more oil, OPEC producing less and the U.S. co2 laws, it won't take more than a year for gas to be knocking on $4 again.
#42 of 237 They're coming!
Feb 09, 2009 (5:18 pm)
Dealer (South Carolina) emailed me today (2/9) that they will have three 2010 Insights in late March. Colors are white, silver, and the light blue (don't know its name).
#43 of 237 Re: Insight vs. Fit [rookie60]
Feb 09, 2009 (7:34 pm)
...it won't take more than a year for gas to be knocking on $4 again.
Crazy as it may sound, I hope right but I think you're wrong. The price of oil is tied closely to the health of the world's economies. Barring a major catastrophic event bringing the price of oil up quickly, we're well over a year away from a healthy economy, and high oil prices.
Here in the Midwest regular gasoline topped out at $4/gallon last July. It was as low as $1.50/gallon around the 1st of the year and is now about $1.80, due more to local gouging than higher oil prices.
$3/gallon should be our mid-summer peak in 2009 - probably lower. $4/gallon gasoline will be back, but the summer of 2010 is the earliest it will happen. That's why we need a $1/gallon gas tax to help fund "infrastructure stimulus", at least while prices are low.
Feb 10, 2009 (9:17 am)
"..$1/gallon gas tax..."
Good start but what our government really needs to do is set a target for future gas prices and make it so by imposing taxes incrementally, $10.00 gallon in 2020.
And use the income wisely, say rapid transit systems.
#45 of 237 Re: Insight vs. Fit [dodgeman07]
Feb 11, 2009 (1:53 pm)
I posted that $4 per gallon gas is coming. Obviously I don't have a crystal ball as to when. The gas tax will come. CO2 emissions will dictate better mileage. China and other emerging countries will demand more gas, thus causing prices to rise. Toward the end of 2009 the economy should start to pick up. All of these things will cause gas prices to rise. $4 is coming. I can't say exactly when. $3 this summer?? Maybe. The Honda Insight looks like a good bet.
#46 of 237 Discounts
Feb 24, 2009 (10:09 am)
Don't forget that several states have sales tax exemption for Hybrids and that can save you a good amount of money compared to the Fit.
Given the rise in the Yen I think it's unlikely Honda can keep the price at $18K. I do think $20K is more likely for base model. I wouldn't pay markup either. If demand is very high though it may be difficult to get one at MSRP in the beginning.
#47 of 237 "Market Adjustment"
Feb 26, 2009 (5:40 pm)
The Honda dealer where I bought my 2009 Fit Sport called yesterday (2/25 dinnertime - don't you love calls at dinnertime) to say the manager was adding a $1,000 "market adjustment" to all Insights. I told him to tell the manager I was no longer interested in an Insight from them but to let me know if he recanted. Tonight, also during dinner, they called back to say the manager had made "an exception" for me since I was a former customer. I'm surprised they're playing these games; new cars aren't selling as it is.
#48 of 237 Re: "Market Adjustment" [dweiser]
by PFFlyer@Edmunds HOST
Feb 27, 2009 (4:40 am)
The free market in action. Sort of like an auction. Who will give me MSRP+$1000? If you don't bite, someone else may.
But yes, it IS an odd time to be playing the game the same way they did in boom times.
#49 of 237 Order Now--- price and colors later
Mar 01, 2009 (8:17 am)
I ordered an Insight and knew more than the dealership about the "new" model. My salesman, from whom I bought my Civic Hybrid in 2006, says I am the first to order one from big Berlin City Honda in NH. He said it should arrive in May, perhaps late April, and my request for a dark red EX with Navi evoked more questions than answers. He thinks it may be the color of the Accord, tango red, and pricing is still unknown. He has no fliers or information for customers yet. I hope he doesn't try to up the price, and may give me a better deal as a third-time buyer. The Insight may mean a loss of mpg over my Civic, but up here on NY state's northernmost border, the long unforgiving winter drags mpg into the mid-30's. The Insight will be a techie upgrade, but I hope it doesn't disappoint with a cheap ride compared to my relatively luxury-sized Civic.
My daughter in NC is eager to buy our Civic, and the 7yr/120K warranty will pass to her with it.
I was surprised that the SC dealer is expecting Insights in March, whereas the Honda dealer in Albemarle, NC told me they wouldn't get them until at least September.