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#39 of 212 Insight vs. Fit by rookie60 Feb 07, 2009 (7:46 am)
$2,000 is not the only reason to choose a car. Hopefully, the Insight will ride better with the longer wheelbase. It will take years to catch $2,000 with gas mileage. Unless you are really hooked into lessening our dependence on foreign oil and gas mileage is more important. However, you have like looks of any car more than another. That is the key. Replies to this message: backy (Feb 07, 2009 9:21 am) rookie60 (Feb 07, 2009 9:56 am) dodgeman07 (Feb 09, 2009 7:34 pm) and 1 more...
#40 of 212 Re: Insight vs. Fit [rookie60] by backy Feb 07, 2009 (9:21 am)
Replying to: rookie60 (Feb 07, 2009 7:46 am) At 15,000 miles a year and 30 mpg average for the Fit and 40 for the Insight (both pretty conservative I think), it will take about 8 years to make up the $2000 difference when gas is $2 a gallon. But if gas goes back to $4 a gallon, as it was not long ago, then it's just 4 years to recoup the difference. I have a feeling Honda is betting gas won't stay at $2 a gallon for very long. I would take that bet also. Replies to this message: rookie60 (Feb 07, 2009 9:56 am) dodgeman07 (Feb 09, 2009 7:34 pm) rookie60 (Feb 11, 2009 1:53 pm)
#41 of 212 Re: Insight vs. Fit [backy] by rookie60 Feb 07, 2009 (9:56 am)
Replying to: backy (Feb 07, 2009 9:21 am) I have a friend who has a Honda Fit. He is Mr. gas mileage. He is the most conservative driver around. He said he gets 31 mpg for combined (mostly city) driving. I have heard 49-52 for the Insight but that is only speculation at this point. I will know more in May. It doesn't take a genius to know that when China and other countries wanting more oil, OPEC producing less and the U.S. co2 laws, it won't take more than a year for gas to be knocking on $4 again. Replies to this message: dodgeman07 (Feb 09, 2009 7:34 pm) rookie60 (Feb 11, 2009 1:53 pm)
#42 of 212 They're coming! by dweiser Feb 09, 2009 (5:18 pm)
Dealer (South Carolina) emailed me today (2/9) that they will have three 2010 Insights in late March. Colors are white, silver, and the light blue (don't know its name).
#43 of 212 Re: Insight vs. Fit [rookie60] by dodgeman07 Feb 09, 2009 (7:34 pm)
Replying to: rookie60 (Feb 07, 2009 9:56 am) ...it won't take more than a year for gas to be knocking on $4 again.   ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////- //////////////////////////////////////   Crazy as it may sound, I hope right but I think you're wrong. The price of oil is tied closely to the health of the world's economies. Barring a major catastrophic event bringing the price of oil up quickly, we're well over a year away from a healthy economy, and high oil prices.   Here in the Midwest regular gasoline topped out at $4/gallon last July. It was as low as $1.50/gallon around the 1st of the year and is now about $1.80, due more to local gouging than higher oil prices.   $3/gallon should be our mid-summer peak in 2009 - probably lower. $4/gallon gasoline will be back, but the summer of 2010 is the earliest it will happen. That's why we need a $1/gallon gas tax to help fund "infrastructure stimulus", at least while prices are low. Replies to this message: rookie60 (Feb 11, 2009 1:53 pm)
#44 of 212 by wwest Feb 10, 2009 (9:17 am)
"..$1/gallon gas tax..."   Good start but what our government really needs to do is set a target for future gas prices and make it so by imposing taxes incrementally, $10.00 gallon in 2020.   And use the income wisely, say rapid transit systems.
#45 of 212 Re: Insight vs. Fit [dodgeman07] by rookie60 Feb 11, 2009 (1:53 pm)
Replying to: dodgeman07 (Feb 09, 2009 7:34 pm) I posted that $4 per gallon gas is coming. Obviously I don't have a crystal ball as to when. The gas tax will come. CO2 emissions will dictate better mileage. China and other emerging countries will demand more gas, thus causing prices to rise. Toward the end of 2009 the economy should start to pick up. All of these things will cause gas prices to rise. $4 is coming. I can't say exactly when. $3 this summer?? Maybe. The Honda Insight looks like a good bet.
#46 of 212 Discounts by lucien4 Feb 24, 2009 (10:09 am)
Replying to: jchan2 (Jan 19, 2009 3:59 pm) Don't forget that several states have sales tax exemption for Hybrids and that can save you a good amount of money compared to the Fit.   Given the rise in the Yen I think it's unlikely Honda can keep the price at $18K. I do think $20K is more likely for base model. I wouldn't pay markup either. If demand is very high though it may be difficult to get one at MSRP in the beginning.
#47 of 212 "Market Adjustment" by dweiser Feb 26, 2009 (5:40 pm)
The Honda dealer where I bought my 2009 Fit Sport called yesterday (2/25 dinnertime - don't you love calls at dinnertime) to say the manager was adding a $1,000 "market adjustment" to all Insights. I told him to tell the manager I was no longer interested in an Insight from them but to let me know if he recanted. Tonight, also during dinner, they called back to say the manager had made "an exception" for me since I was a former customer. I'm surprised they're playing these games; new cars aren't selling as it is. Replies to this message: pf_flyer (Feb 27, 2009 4:40 am)
#48 of 212 Re: "Market Adjustment" [dweiser] by pf_flyer HOST Feb 27, 2009 (4:40 am)
Replying to: dweiser (Feb 26, 2009 5:40 pm) The free market in action. Sort of like an auction. Who will give me MSRP+$1000? If you don't bite, someone else may.   But yes, it IS an odd time to be playing the game the same way they did in boom times.

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