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AC mpg surprise by ggg8
Jul 23, 2009 (11:45 pm)
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mpg drops about 30% to upper 20's with AC on (ECO mode or not), so if you live where it's hot don't expect good mileage in summer. In ECO mode AC shuts off at a full stop so if you are in stop and go traffic ECO mode is pretty uncomfortable in warm climate.
 
 I have April 2010 EX with 1000 mi now in Hawaii.
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Re: AC mpg surprise [ggg8] by rookie60
Jul 24, 2009 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: ggg8 (Jul 23, 2009 11:45 pm)

Not sure what you mean about "30% to upper 20's with AC on". My Insight has been averaging 45-46 since June 19. Mostly the air is on. This is whether I drive the car or my wife drives the car. The Insight is not a fancy car but the mileage has been 44-46 since we picked it up on June 19.
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MPG by sr146260211
Jul 24, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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If you do not drive longer distances, such as 5 mile one way or more, the car may not be warmed up enough to give you better gas mileage with or without the air on.
 
I test drove my Insight driving an 8 to 9 mile round trip in the City and averaged about 44/46 mpg.
 
Drove only 1/2 mile up and 1/2 mile back from the store, or bank for a months time and averaged about 29 miles per gallon with the air on. See the big difference ? Ambient temps, how far one drives, is the car warmed up enough, air on or off and how long those traffic lights are will play a big difference in your gas mileage. Not to mention if you dive it like you did with a non hybrid car. Fast and careless attitude so to speak.
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Re: Mea Culpa [jchan2] by pielev09
Jul 27, 2009 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jan 20, 2009 2:43 pm)

A Honda Insight LX wille allow you to drive on icy road in the Winter not the Prius 2010 because they forgot to include a (Vehicule Stability Control)VSC OFF button to disengaged the system so that when you go up a hill in Winter with the Prius 2010, your engine is turned off by the system. You are then stuck in the snow while standard forward traction cars pass you by. It happened to me after driving a 2008 Prius from March to Early December 08. I had to get rid of the Prius because of that. The Toyota Corolla 2010 has a VSC OFF button but the Japanese Engineers with their 1000 patents for the Prius 2010 forgot to include that one.
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LA TImes: The Insight is Being Steamrolled By Prius in Sales Since March by janehonda
Jul 28, 2009 (7:05 am)
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http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-honda-insight28-2009jul28,0,5682189.story
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Re: LA TImes: The Insight is Being Steamrolled By Prius in Sales Since March [janehonda] by dweiser
Jul 28, 2009 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: janehonda (Jul 28, 2009 7:05 am)

I'm afraid the article may be correct. I spoke with a dealer in Troy, NY and the Insight is a dead dog; i.e. no sales. I admit to owning one (shamefully) and I understand why. Buy the Prius if you must have a hybrid not this lame excuse. BIG mistake on my part to buy one.
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Re: LA TImes: The Insight is Being Steamrolled By Prius in Sales Since March [dweiser] by pielev09
Jul 28, 2009 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: dweiser (Jul 28, 2009 7:16 am)

Keep your Insight because you will be able to use it in thw New York Winter.
The Prius might be fine for LA and California but is woth nothing inthe slippy road in Winter because it does not have a VSC off button to disengaged the stability control which also controls the traction. I had a Prius 2008 and I had to get rid of it in December 2008 because on icy road the engine simply stop to avoid the front wheel from slippering . Th Insight LX does not have such a stupid system and on the EX you have a disengaging buton to cancel it and drive on icy road.
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Re: LA TImes: The Insight is Being Steamrolled By Prius in Sales Since March [dweiser] by pielev09
Jul 28, 2009 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: dweiser (Jul 28, 2009 7:16 am)

Keep your Insight because you will be able to use it in the New York Winter.
The Prius might be fine for LA and California but is worth nothing in the slippy road in Winter because it does not have a VSC off button to disengage the stability control which also controls the traction. I had a Prius 2008 and I had to get rid of it in December 2008 because on icy road the engine simply stopped to avoid the front wheel from slippering . The Insight LX does not have such a stupid system and on the EX you have a disengaging buton to cancel it and drive on icy road.
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Re: LA TImes: The Insight is Being Steamrolled By Prius in Sales Since March [dweiser] by galileo5
Jul 28, 2009 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: dweiser (Jul 28, 2009 7:16 am)

I'm afraid the article may be correct. I spoke with a dealer in Troy, NY and the Insight is a dead dog; i.e. no sales. I admit to owning one (shamefully) and I understand why. Buy the Prius if you must have a hybrid not this lame excuse. BIG mistake on my part to buy one.
 
dweiser,
 
Why do you regret purchasing the Insight aside from a few negative reviews and poor sales?
 
I am assuming you did some research before buying the Insight. After all, buying a car is a pretty big investment. I don't understand why you're so disgruntled in the car on which you must have done some serious research before laying down the big cash.
 
I have the Insight, too, and I don't regret it. The car has been growing on me, and it's a nice feeling to have a unique hybrid with great mpg that isn't so commonplace.
 
Danny
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Insight2 longivity by franko1
Jul 28, 2009 (6:29 pm)
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Replying to: galileo5 (Jul 28, 2009 3:35 pm)

I also bought an insight in May 09 and now I'm concerned. I recently read many prius web sites and message boards and one article stood out that alarmed me. One car buff went to Japan to get reviews on hybrids and he met up with a honda executive and they discussed both hybrids. He said it appears Honda got blind sided by the prius msrp reduction, and the advanced hybrid technology, like no belt driven accessories and all disc brakes, plus many other features. He said the latest rumor is that Honda is accellerating the design and early production of the Fit hybrid (60mpg), by the fall of 2010. Also, they are selling Insights at a loss and as a result he feels that the insight2 production will be discontinued in late 2010. The latest consumer report says that their review of the insight is the most disappointing that C.R. has tested in a long time. Prius is selling 6 times more than the insight. Honda predicted they would sell 100K units in US sales, but now at current pace only 24K units may be sold. Our local dealer quit advertising insights in sunday paper. Sorry for the bad news.

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