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#120 of 212 I wonder who Whitey9 is addressing? by dweiser Apr 18, 2009 (2:59 am)
Because franko1 states he bought the EX no Navi and I also stated I bought the EX no Navi?
#121 of 212 - by dudleyr Apr 18, 2009 (12:28 pm)
How is the Prius 5 grand more? You can get one for 21k including delivery.
#122 of 212 Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [vagabondchef] by sr146260211 Apr 18, 2009 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: vagabondchef (Apr 01, 2009 7:36 am) Three days with the Insight EX.   First day I immediately went to the gas station to top it off very early in the morning, then drove about three miles back home. I registered on the insight about 54 mpg. Only one stop light during those short three miles and did use the Econ button thingy. Very impressed.   Now city driving only for two days, early morning, no traffic 1/2 mile to and 1/2 mile back from the bank or store, driving normally, no hypermiling stuff, just normal. Not enough time to warm up the engine, so did not expect great numbers. I got about 34/36 mpg in those two days.   One has to conclude ( Common sense ) that you get lower mpg no matter what car you drive, not having the car warmed up and just a very short drive.   Had a 09 Civic Auto with Nav, got 25/26 mpg on a 4 mile to and from work city only. Soon retired and drove that 1/2 mile to and 1/2 mile back driving stuff and got 17 mpg. See how it works ?   Fabric is on par with the Civic I owned back in 06, my 09 had leather. Unknown how well it will keep nor does anyone else, so don't let others con you into believing it is junk.   Upkeep after the warranty remark by vaga should not have been stated. He, I, and no one else has a clue as to any upkeep after the warranty. Do not have a Crystal ball, but I hope it will last a good while.   The car is nice, could be much better, and will be when in 5 years time the full make over arrives as with any new model.   Regarding the about 5 grand more, let me clarify this. The brand new Prius still the price has not been announced, will cost about 5 grand more for the Level 3 which will include a big mark up as I have experienced, not any where near 21 or 22 grand. The Insight, at one dealer I visited, is going for $1,000 over MSRP for the LX and $2,000 over MSRP for the EX. I paid just slighty under MSRP for my EX since I am a long time buyer from this dearlership.   Toyota dearlerships have been known to pump up the price on a brand new model year unless you are lucky. Don't know where you got the $21,000 or so price for a 2010 Prius since pricing is not out yet, so I will forgive you on that one. And no, I will not compare prices on a 2009 model, only between a 2010 Insight and a 2010 Prius to keep it simple.   Replies to this message: rookie60 (Apr 18, 2009 8:20 pm) tiff_c (Apr 19, 2009 5:22 am)
#123 of 212 Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [sr146260211] by rookie60 Apr 18, 2009 (8:20 pm)
Replying to: sr146260211 (Apr 18, 2009 3:34 pm) $21,000 for the Prius??? I agree with vagabondchef. Toyota lists the 2009 Prius as $22,000 plus $750 for destination ($22,750). If you want cruise and vehicle stability control, it comes to $24,125. Prices go up to $27,275, ACCORDING TO TOYOTA. Obviously, the 2010 model will be more. Toyota knows that they are more expensive than the Insight. It is a more complicated system. That is also why they are saying they are going to make another cheaper model (maybe the Yaris as a hybrid) to complete in price with the Insight. I think the Toyota is a better car (arguably). I just can't deal with the terrible dash and the slit for the speedo.
#124 of 212 Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [sr146260211] by tiff_c Apr 19, 2009 (5:22 am)
Replying to: sr146260211 (Apr 18, 2009 3:34 pm) The car is nice, could be much better, and will be when in 5 years time the full make over arrives as with any new model.   I doubt Honda will take 5 years to tweak the Insight. From what I have seen in the past they will find out from consumers what issues crop up the most and resolve them. I think they should have offered the same interior options as they do on the Civic. Let's be honest the Civic parts bin is overflowing as it is and it's cost effective to use Civic interior parts. The Civic has a good interior considering the cost. They are already using the steering wheel, etc... I expect minor changes each year until the 2015 model comes out. Toyota has done the same with the Prius.
#125 of 212 Future tweaking of the Insight by sr146260211 Apr 19, 2009 (1:07 pm)
The new Insight will come out five years after this release and Honda will not make any major changes until then. Some tweaks yes, but the body style will remain the same.   What I would like to see is a larger back seat area, a better layout for the instrument panel, and that will not be given during the five year stretch for this new Insight.   Within 3 years, honda will offer Leather seats probably, some more colors and a small tweaking of the the front and rear head lights as they have done on the civic and other cars. Replies to this message: rookie60 (Apr 19, 2009 5:05 pm)
#126 of 212 Re: Future tweaking of the Insight [sr146260211] by rookie60 Apr 19, 2009 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: sr146260211 (Apr 19, 2009 1:07 pm) Remember, the Insight is a cheap hybrid. It is not a fancy do-all car. Just like ANY car, it will evolve over time. 4-5 years is what any car will stay the same. The Insight III will be a better car. AND the Insight IV will be better yet.
#127 of 212 - by dudleyr Apr 19, 2009 (8:07 pm)
http://fitzmall.com/fitzway/carfind/RESULTSB.ASP?V_XREFID=LFT520255:2009-01-29T2- - - 3:15:04.930   Brand new 09 Prius for $21k with stability control and rear view backup camera.   The 2010 list price will probably not go up much if any as they have decontented in some ways - new display screen etc, and have economy of scale plus competition.   BTW - why not compare the 2009 as it is larger than the Honda and gets better mpg. Yes it does not handle as well, but that will still probably be the case for the 2010. Replies to this message: lucien4 (Apr 21, 2009 9:40 am)
#128 of 212 Re: - [dudleyr] by lucien4 Apr 21, 2009 (9:40 am)
Replying to: dudleyr (Apr 19, 2009 8:07 pm) The Prius II comparison to Insight II has been discussed to death and it comes down mostly to personal preference anyway. However almost all reviews say that mileage is about the same between these 2 so that's not a big factor.   Pricing for Prius III would be announced tomorrow and rumors are that Toyota is lowering the base price to $21000 to be able to compete with the Insight. The base model though wouldn't be available first couple of months.   The 21K price seems to good to be true but Prius hasn't sold well so might be real deal. According to Edmunds the TMV price is more like 1K below MSRP.
#129 of 212 New Insight...not impressive by mickeyrom May 15, 2009 (6:55 am)
I test drove the new Insight,and I must say I was underwhelmed.The car was noticeably underpowered.You have to buy the more expensive one to get cruise or the alloy wheels.The interior is unimpressive and finding various controls is not intuitive.I would not buy one.

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