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Re: great Insight review from Temple of VTec [204meca] by lucien4
Apr 06, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: 204meca (Apr 05, 2009 10:25 pm)

It seems weird that Honda would add more competition with the Fit Hybrid but they did recently reaffirm this. It might be similar to the Insight competing with the Civic Hybrid: price diff isn't quite as big and design/features are distinct enough to find different type of buyers.
 
Re mileage it clearly depends on the route but on average you should be able to exceed the EPA rating after the break-in period. Relatively speaking though improvement of 33% is really not bad. How much again depends on the route. Here's a motor trend fuel economy test with ideal road conditions (not stopping and not high speed). He got 65mpg and 28 mpg when he drove bit faster:
 
http://www.motortrend.com/av/roadtests/112_0901_2010_honda_insight_mileage_test_- - video/index.html
 
PS I've maintained a list of upcoming Hybrids here:
 
http://lucienk.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!A4AE3FB12A26635!912.entry
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Re: great Insight review from Temple of VTec [lucien4] by rookie60
Apr 07, 2009 (4:59 am)
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Replying to: lucien4 (Apr 06, 2009 7:15 am)

As far as a Fit hybrid, I think there will be a lot of hybrids from all manufacturers in the next 5 years. I think we will get out of this slump in 1-3 years. Then, with gas prices rising and demand rising, gas will go to $4+ again. Also, the new co2 laws and mileage increases come in. I think that in about 2015, most new cars will be hybrids. At $4+ per gallon, and with gov't mandates, look for the Fit hybrid among others.
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Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [vagabondchef] by franko1
Apr 07, 2009 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: vagabondchef (Apr 01, 2009 7:36 am)

I just bought a 2010 insight last week and so far I think I screwed up. I spent over 12 hours reading the manual trying to understand the electronics and I am so confused that I wish they would take it back. I know computers, but this system is for PHD's, not avg. people. For instance, this veh. has about 65 fuses, 35 categories that you can click on for specific functions , like locking doors. That has 5 more windows. You can default all the important functions to get back to factory set-up, this is after you really screw it up. Presently, after trying to get the passenger door to unlock with shifter in park is hopeless after 20 minutes of sweating. It still does not work. The programming and manual are not in sinc. I agree with the gentleman's opinion of ths pos. It's so slow that I never had so many people riding my bumper. The feds should ban this pos from our roadways.
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Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [franko1] by tiff_c
Apr 07, 2009 (4:19 pm)
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Replying to: franko1 (Apr 07, 2009 2:05 pm)

Ok, the fact that the car is complicated to setup exactly the way you want, is understandable. I'm certain it's a PITA to deal with and hopefully your local dealer can help you with some of that. But as far as performance goes. You did drive the car before you bought it, correct?
I mean it's something you'd notice on a normal test drive. Just like I noticed how cramped the back seats are and I'm only 5'7" tall.
Power was ok compared to a Honda Fit. But compared to a Prius the Insight is a bit slower feeling and not as comfortable.
But the power didn't change from the test drive until now. Did you turn off ECON mode? That will give you more power.
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Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [tiff_c] by vagabondchef
Apr 07, 2009 (5:18 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Apr 07, 2009 4:19 pm)

Take back to the dealer and park it on the front door step and trade it in. This car is nothing but smoke and mirrors!!!!
 
Buy a normal Honda!!!
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Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [vagabondchef] by tiff_c
Apr 07, 2009 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: vagabondchef (Apr 07, 2009 5:18 pm)

Take back to the dealer and park it on the front door step and trade it in. This car is nothing but smoke and mirrors!!!!
  
Buy a normal Honda!!!

 
I own a Honda Fit Sport. I test drove the Insight. I was not impressed. My point to you was that if you drove the car before you bought it, you would be aware of the power it does/n't have.
It's a 99HP car, it's meant for city driving, like the Fit and most small cars.
I find the 118HP of the Fit barely adequate for the hills in my area. So 99HP wouldn't be enough especially in the winter on the barely plowed roads.
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Re: Real-World 2010 Insight 40 Mile Test Drive [franko1] by lucien4
Apr 08, 2009 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: franko1 (Apr 07, 2009 2:05 pm)

The preferences menu is almost identical to most Honda's/Acura. See page 106. To set the preference select SETUP and then select 'DOOR SETUP' / 'AUTO DOOR UNLOCK' and choose 'ALL DOORS WITH SHIFT TO P'. If that doesn't work I would check with the dealer.
 
The total combined HP is 111HP. No doubt the Fit is little bit faster (about 1 sec to 60mph). Using the S mode helps little bit (EX models).
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How to change settings like DOOR LOCK by dweiser
Apr 08, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Apr 07, 2009 8:03 pm)

Gee, a lot of anger and frustration with the Insight eh. I'm just getting to really like mine. I too sat in the driver's seat for a good while trying to get the doors to NOT lock as I drive down the road. It wasn't intuitive and it sure wasn't fun BUT I'm happy to report they do no longer lock automatically. Please allow me to try to help with the doors locking: I have a 2010 EX with no Navi ......
Try this with the engine off, be in Park, put the key in and in position "ON 2", page 128.
To get started, go to page 76 of your owner's manual. There are two "Info" navigation buttons on the outer steering wheel around 4 or 5 o'clock which the driver pushes towards the front of the vehicle or away from him/her.
One has an up arrow and the lower a down arrow to navigate the menu system
There is also one "Select" button in back of the two Info buttons which the driver uses to pick his/her choices. The driver pulls this button towards them to select an option after using the two Info buttons to navigate thru the menus.
Clear as mud so far?
To enter the "Change Settings" mode, go to Pg. 91 of the manual. When you want to change the factory settings (be not afraid), hold either of the two Info buttons and hold for more than 3 seconds. (This is a lot like work.)
If you have followed instructions like a good German you should now be able to up or down arrow the Info buttons until you get to "DOOR SETUP". When you see "DOOR SETUP" pull the Select button (behind the Info buttons) toward you.
Use the Info buttons to get to "AUTO DOOR LOCK" and pull Select towards you. Pg. 106. Once in "AUTO DOOR LOCK" there are 3 choices: "SHIFT FROM P", "WITH VEHICLE SPEED", and "OFF". Page 107.
Use the Info buttons to cycle until "OFF" is displayed then pull "Select" towards you.
When you are finished cursing and having a nervous breakdown, INFO button through the menus until you see EXIT and press Select. Congratulations, go pour yourself a nice strong drink and wait for Honda to mail you your promotion to Pilot of the Enterprise Space Station!
To recap - it's not bad IF you just remember this, Navigate the menu system using the Info buttons, change the setting using the Select button before going into the swamp.
I hope this helps, it probably won't. If it doesn't, please keep it to yourself or I may have to come over and kill you.
 
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Re: How to change settings like DOOR LOCK [dweiser] by tiff_c
Apr 09, 2009 (9:07 pm)
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Replying to: dweiser (Apr 08, 2009 12:14 pm)

Gee, a lot of anger and frustration with the Insight eh. I'm just getting to really like mine. I too sat in the driver's seat for a good while trying to get the doors to NOT lock as I drive down the road. It wasn't intuitive and it sure wasn't fun BUT I'm happy to report they do no longer lock automatically. Please allow me to try to help with the doors locking: I have a 2010 EX with no Navi ......
 
Actually it's someone else that has a problem with the doors, not me. I've just test driven the car and found it to be underpowered for my needs.
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My brief take on the 2010 Insight by sr146260211
Apr 11, 2009 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: tiff_c (Apr 09, 2009 9:07 pm)

Finally got to take a test drive with this new Hybrid and this is what I found to like and dislike.
 
1. First noticed that the car seemed just a tiny bit cheap looking inside and out, but not much to sway me to leave. Just thought it could be some what like my 09 Civic EX-L
 
2. The Interior seemed too busy for the dash and that the area for the NAV system looked as an after thought with this black shiny plastic that really turned me off on. The regular radio, none nav system looked a bit better.
 
3. Back Seat area... What back seat area ? For kids yes and for smaller people maybe, but for my 6-3 size and yes even for the sales rep 5-8 size, we had issues. For me, even with the front seat pulled forward, I had trouble with my legs and as for my head, I had to bend it forward since there was not enough head room. What was Honda thinking with this limited back seat ?
 
This was a deal breaker. Many of my friends are 6-0 or more and that would be intolerable to them.
 
4. Test drive. Not too far, about 5 miles or a tad more. For the city part, it performed well, not great nor did I expect it to for a hybrid. Trying to push it some, the engine sounded course, some what loud over my 09 Civic Automatic.
 
If it was not for the back seating issue and the cheap looking dash where the NAV would go, I would have purchase it then and there.
 
Will now take a wait and see on any rumored 2011 Civic, Civic Hybrid, Fit Hybrid or go with the Toyota 2010 Prius that will hold larger passengers in the back, but of course it will cost about 4 thousand or more for it.

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