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Car Buying, Car Warranties, Certified Used (CPO)
#7 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [volvomax]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 03, 2008 (12:24 pm)
Yes that is correct. The factory burns the dealer and the dealer burns the customer, on a warranty denial.
Dealers can't void the warranty. I presume what they do is check with the Zone Office before they submit a claim to see if the factory will go for it or not, prior to making the repair? (if they are in doubt I mean).
#8 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 04, 2008 (8:49 am)
A dealer knows that any iffy claim is going to have to be greenlighted by the motor co first.
Otherwise, the dealer will have to eat the claim.
Some dealers are real sticklers,esp when dealing w/ modded cars.
Others are more easygoing.
#9 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [volvomax]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 04, 2008 (8:52 am)
Question is, how is a used car buyer supposed to know when he's buying a car with a partly voided warranty? This is not going to show up on CARFAX. It's not like when you buy a used car with a salvage title, then you KNOW there's no warranty no matter if the car has 10 miles on it.
I guess with the tremendous upsurge in modding, this partial warranty scenario was inevitable.
#10 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 04, 2008 (12:00 pm)
Easy, buy a CPO car.
#11 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 04, 2008 (12:07 pm)
If you want to know the warranty status on a car, get the VIN and call a local dealer. We can run the VIN and check warranty status, recalls, that sort of thing. Some dealers may not give out warranty claim history, but all should give status and recalls. Ask for the service department. It's no big deal, we do it all the time.
#12 of 46 Don't Give Them an Excuse to Say No!
Sep 04, 2008 (3:49 pm)
About thirty years ago my Ford 2.3L engine developed premature cylinder wear (piston slap). Fortunately my brother-in-law was a Ford mechanic and knew Ford has a "secret" extended warranty for the problem.
Seems some Ford engineer figured that a few cents could be saved by not drilling oil lube holes in the connecting rods. Problems began to appear in cold climates where cold starts were causing excessive cylinder wear.
The district Ford rep examined my engine, noting that I had the car serviced regularly and had a Motorcraft oil filter installed. Out-of-warranty engine and transmission rebuilds were approved.
Lesson…keep up with scheduled maintenance using approved parts.
#13 of 46 Re: Voided or Denied Warranty Experiences [Mr_Shiftright]
Sep 05, 2008 (9:45 am)
Was the fuel system what the new owner needed to have serviced?
Was the partial void something that had already been established or did that determination happen when the new owner took the car in for service?
Sounds like the new owner needed the service pretty soon after buying the car. Do you know if that was the case?
#14 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [mitzij]
Sep 05, 2008 (9:54 am)
Used cars have the FTC required buyers guide sticker on them. It may state that the balance of the manufacturer's warranty is in effect. Do used car dealers routinely make the simple phone call you suggest before they check that box on the sticker?
#15 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [mattandi]
Sep 05, 2008 (10:11 am)
I'd have to say no.
A used car re-seller isn't responsible for the manufacturers warranty.
What it covers, or what it doesn't.
All the form does is let you know that such coverage exists.
#16 of 46 Re: The Evo and Mazdaspeed boards [volvomax]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Sep 05, 2008 (10:55 am)
Gee I dunno. Seems to me if you buy a car BASED primarily on what someone tells you to be true, and it's not, that still holds the seller responsible....not for FRAUD (as you say, maybe he didn't know) but certainly for misrepresentation.
If I sell you my car, and tell you that "my mechanic rebuilt the engine", because that's what my mechanic said to me, and then you find out that in fact all that was done was a head gasket and valve job, well I'm still in the hole for misrepresenting the car to you. I wasn't defrauding you, because hell I didn't know exactly what the mechanic did...I don't even know what a rebuilt engine IS....(for the sake of argument)....but you bought the car because you were counting on a rebuilt engine for that car.