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64 messages, Last post on Dec 15, 2008 at 11:18 AM
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Ranger, several posts back, I think you mentioned that the '09 Limited had a rear LSD, while the "lower" models did not.... is that accurate? If so, what a loss. The '07 and '08s, at least, did have the LSD on all trims, and it is a very effective tool for increasing driver control of the car's rear end. I appreciated that feature more than any other in comparison to my '96 Ouback, which did not have the rear LSD. I very much hope that Subaru does not abandon the LSD in favor of VDC. I do not see them as incompatible features, and I am not sure why the company would (other than a little cost saving).
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 22, 2008 8:57 am) I meant that VDC was an option on the 08's and standard on the 09's. I never meant to bash Jeeps in earlier posts, I love Jeeps, always have. I was just stating that many of the People I know as well as me with past ownership of a Chrysler product, I was just showing some concern for People buying them because I know how under handed Chrysler is and how volatile the Company is right now. Anyone can tell when a Company is desperate because they throw everything at you to get you to buy, knowing in the long run they'll never have to Pony up. Just take Chrysler's Minivan line. I had a 2000 Grand Caravan and loved the design. At 57,000 Miles the Transmission blew up and after many heated debates on the Phone and in person they only offered to pay $500.00 of a $3,800.00 fix. This problem is inherent on the V-6 Engine with the Auto Transmission and one they have never bothered to fix. It's such a stupid thing but Chrysler refuses to acknowledge the problem. Instead of using a Spline in the Driveshaft to connect the Engine to the Transmission, they use a Hole in the Driveshaft and a Pushpin to connect the 2 together. When the Pushpin becomes loose over Time it's ejected and causes all kinds of problems. Do you honestly think Chrysler is going to be fixing these Transmissions in the future? I doubt it... I didn't mean to turn this into a Chrysler post but I'm just trying to let everyone know that I'm in no way bashing Jeeps, I just really feel bad for the fact Chrysler took them over and is ruining their reputation as a rugged off Road vehicle and duping Millions into thinking if they buy one, they'll never have to worry about the mechanics.
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Replying to: kentuckyranger (Oct 22, 2008 10:18 am) Ah, good to hear. I have not really looked at the mechanics of the '09s, but I know that the Forester does not have the LSD and does have VDC, so it certainly is a plausible route for the company to go. |
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 22, 2008 12:08 pm) That and the fact it doesn't get quite the Gas Millage the Outback does. Also, since my last posting, I found out that LSD doesn't come standard on lower end 09 Outback models and that is a shame.
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Replying to: kentuckyranger (Oct 22, 2008 3:40 pm) We're averaging over 27mpg on the current tank. Even around town we get 24 or so. That's not bad, IMHO. Forester is lighter than the Outback.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 23, 2008 11:03 am) Manual or auto, I found them (Outbacks) peppy and responsive, though, with the auto, familiarity with the gas pedal makes a big difference on how it responds. "Stomping it" at intersections, for example, does not illicit an optimum response from the car. Ranger - I am disappointed to hear that the LSD is not standard throughout the lineup any longer, it will definitely be something I check before I purchase my next Subaru. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 23, 2008 11:03 am) I really didn't know real work Millage, I just assumed the larger Forester would get less, so much for assuming... :O) I still would have chsen the Outback anyway because it has LSD and just looks a little more sporty to me. |
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For those getting '09 Outbacks, and are driving in winter weather, consider ditching the stock Bridgstones for Nokian tires. I've had many a comparison between '09 Forester and Outbacks, and found that the Outbacks had harsher ride on small, strong bumps than the Forester did, especially after the Forester got outfitted with WR or WRG2 Nokian tires. Most likely the Outback's ride will improve, and the snow traction will vastly improve, with the Nokians. |
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