Article Comments - 2009 Ford Fiesta First Drive and Full Test

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First Drive: 2009 Ford Fiesta - First Impressions: Small European cars haven't made much of an impression in America before, but the Fiesta might be different.(more)

2009 Ford Fiesta Titanium Full Test and Video - Bottom Line: We're crossing our fingers (and toes) that Ford doesn't stray too far from this winning combination of style, performance and efficiency when the 2011 Ford Fiesta finally arrives in 2010. (more)

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#74 of 91 Re: two tiers of "B" cars [puffin1] by jeffyscott Sep 14, 2009 (5:54 am)
Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 14, 2009 4:19 am) Of course you can push the price to $22K+. Apparently one can even get the MSRP of a Hyundai Accent to $18-19K, that does not mean that most or many people are going there. All I am saying is that most buyers have not been interested in a subcompact at that price level and I do not see that changing, I guess we will have to wait and see if it does. $20 or 22K is certainly currently far above what the typical buyer of these small cars has been paying for them. This article: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2008-05-28-small-car-prices-SUVs_N.htm reports that subcompacts were selling for an average $14,217 as of about 1.5 years ago. To get back to the topic, I will predict that the Fiesta will feature a base price of no more than $13,xxx and I will be very surprised if it starts above $15K, let alone above $16K as Edmunds has predicted. Replies to this message: dodgeman07 (Sep 14, 2009 12:57 pm) nippononly (Sep 15, 2009 6:46 am) puffin1 (Sep 18, 2009 4:45 pm)
#75 of 91 Re: two tiers of "B" cars [jeffyscott] by dodgeman07 Sep 14, 2009 (12:57 pm)
Replying to: jeffyscott (Sep 14, 2009 5:54 am) Yes - back to the Fiesta. I'm looking forward to driving one next year and the 5-door hatch looks good in photos. The sedan not so much. As for pricing I'd guess Ford will bring in a "low tier" base model under $15K. Probably $14,XXX plus destination so they can offer a $14,900 entry price. Then again I thought Honda would keep the Insight under $19K and I missed on that one. Honda went too high, too soon on the Insight but the exchange rates also forced their hand somewhat. Replies to this message: nippononly (Sep 15, 2009 6:46 am) puffin1 (Sep 18, 2009 4:45 pm)
#76 of 91 Re: two tiers of "B" cars [dodgeman07] by nippononly Sep 15, 2009 (6:46 am)
Replying to: dodgeman07 (Sep 14, 2009 12:57 pm) You and I are of the same mind. I figure $14,995 for a base model Fiesta with a stick. And at that price, in this market, a power package and Sync had better be standard. ABS and ESC will be mandated by the time this hits the market, so those will be in the base price as well. That leaves room to add combinations of leather, a sport package, a moonroof, or a luxury package with auto climate, radar-cruise, NAV, whatever, and keep the price under $20K. Maybe $22K for every option including NAV plus an automatic. Replies to this message: puffin1 (Sep 18, 2009 4:45 pm)
#77 of 91 Re: two tiers of "B" cars [nippononly] by puffin1 Sep 18, 2009 (4:45 pm)
Replying to: nippononly (Sep 15, 2009 6:46 am) no disrespect,but i don't see that happening.
#78 of 91 Beyond competitive by urbc Sep 19, 2009 (6:29 am)
It will be priced along the other cars in the segment. However the Fiesta will offer more options, and superior engineering. I'd have to say I'm impressed with mine. http://www.carspace.com/blogs/MYFIESTA/ Replies to this message: puffin1 (Sep 23, 2009 5:08 am) iamz (Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am) puffin1 (Sep 24, 2009 6:50 am) and 1 more...
#79 of 91 Re: Beyond competitive [urbc] by puffin1 Sep 23, 2009 (5:08 am)
Replying to: urbc (Sep 19, 2009 6:29 am) On MSN web page the ten best mini and sub compacts coming to the USA weere listed the Fiesta wasn't mentoined or shown.. WED.9/23 Replies to this message: iamz (Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am) puffin1 (Sep 24, 2009 6:50 am) eldaino2 (Sep 24, 2009 7:50 am)
#80 of 91 Re: Beyond competitive [puffin1] by iamz Sep 23, 2009 (11:26 am)
Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 23, 2009 5:08 am) Is your point that the people that put together that list are idiots? If it is, you're right. Replies to this message: puffin1 (Sep 24, 2009 6:50 am) eldaino2 (Sep 24, 2009 7:50 am)
#81 of 91 Re: Fiesta Tested Article [hako] by eldaino2 Sep 23, 2009 (12:27 pm)
Replying to: hako (Sep 07, 2009 1:03 pm) The Accent SE, with it's quicker steering rack, sport-tuned suspension, B&M short-shifter, and available AEM intake compares quite favorably to the Fiesta.... at a similar price. The Hyundai warranty being much superior of course. The Accent hatch beats out the Fit for interior volume and warranty too. hyundai's idea of a sport tuned suspension is laughable. if the se was so great, every auto journalism site would be raving how much better it is than the fit. the warranty is superior though. interior volume?hmmm...honestly cant say, but the hatch only comes in a three door: more volume or not, thats not as practical. not to mention that the fits cargo space whips the accent with the seats down. and the move to a four door accent nets you a trunk, not a hatch. Replies to this message: hako (Nov 14, 2009 10:44 am) puffin1 (Nov 20, 2009 12:28 pm)
#82 of 91 Re: Beyond competitive [iamz] by puffin1 Sep 24, 2009 (6:50 am)
Replying to: iamz (Sep 23, 2009 11:26 am) Well, the Fiesta is due to arrive in Feb.or March. I hopt the tatium model is available. The V dub prices are out of sight. I think the Fiesta would offer just as much as the Mini ,but at least 2 k lower. Like I said I test drove the new GTI $30k and to me it was the same as the 09 $26,900 (sunroof 18' wheels mandatory) VW is bringing a Golf R 280 HP don't know price,but I bet the Mazda Speed is lower in price. What do you think Roger Penski could do w/Astrsa nice car,but no torque? Since the Mini I tried was $24800.00 with Preformance pkg, and cold weather pkg. I'll wait on the Fiesta. Replies to this message: eldaino2 (Sep 24, 2009 7:50 am)
#83 of 91 Re: Beyond competitive [puffin1] by eldaino2 Sep 24, 2009 (7:50 am)
Replying to: puffin1 (Sep 24, 2009 6:50 am) why does everyon think the fiesta is a mini competitor? its not. not on price at least. the mini plays on a different level,DESPITE its size. i'd love to see an astra with torque and a proper engine/automatic. Like I said I test drove the new GTI $30k and to me it was the same as the 09 $26,900 (sunroof 18' wheels mandatory) VW is bringing a Golf R 280 HP don't know price,but I bet the Mazda Speed is lower in price. again, the GTI and the fiesta are for two different markets, just because you are corss shopping them does not mean they were intended to be. the new GTI is not 30k. optioned out yes, but a base model will be in the low to mid 20's. the Golf R is a middlepoint between sti/evo type cars and gti/mazdaspeed3 type cars. and its expensive because unlike the speed, it has an interior worthy of a much more expensive price tag, has awd AND its limited run. they usually only release 5k of them.