Article Comments - 2009 Hyundai Genesis vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350

152 messages, Last post on Jun 06, 2009 at 1:45 PM

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Comparison Test: 2009 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350 - Hyundai isn't shy about its targets for the Genesis. "While Genesis will compete for customers with cars like Lexus ES, Chrysler 300 and Cadillac CTS," the company stated in a press release about the car's pricing, "Genesis' performance capabilities and luxury features are comparable to sedans costing tens of thousands of dollars more." (more)

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#97 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by tom17 Sep 12, 2008 (6:49 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm) Well shouldn't the sales of genesis be compared with the sales of sedans in its price range. Than comparing with an RL which is priced way above. Hyundai themselves is comparing the Genesis to a Porsche Boxter. The previous comparison of the Sonata to a Camry & Accord is night and day closer than comparing a 4 door sedan to a 2 door converible. At least the RL is a 4 door luxury sedan. Replies to this message: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:20 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:22 am) jeffreid (Sep 13, 2008 2:08 pm) and 17 more...
#98 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by joe97 Sep 12, 2008 (7:13 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm) Well shouldn't the sales of genesis be compared with the sales of sedans in its price range. Than comparing with an RL which is priced way above. I am not saying it shouldn't but there is nothing wrong w/ it. When even the professionals are comparing the Genesis to the luxury counterparts, then that might give some hints to the caliber of the car. By your logic, the Japanese contenders (minus the pathetic RL) shouldn't be compared to the Germans because cars like BMW and MB are priced much higher than that of the Lexus and Infiniti. Go drive the car and find out for yourself. I for sure know an RL's Nav touch screen is far superior to any in its class I disagree. I've found Audi's MMI system to be the best overall navigation system. I have not had much playing time with the system in the Genesis but initial impressions are very good. It's closer to the MMI than the complicated i-Drive. RL's is also very good, I found, but too few people know about it
#99 of 152 Re: [tom17] by joe97 Sep 12, 2008 (7:20 pm)
Replying to: tom17 (Sep 12, 2008 6:49 pm) Hyundai themselves is comparing the Genesis to a Porsche Boxter. Only in 0-60, which was independently tested. The Boxster had a weight advantage of over a ton, and still came in almost a second slower - should note Genesis does have the power advantage but still. I believe they also did a test with the 750i, with the Genesis finishing ahead. Replies to this message: satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:22 am) jeffreid (Sep 13, 2008 2:08 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 5:55 pm) and 16 more...
#100 of 152 Re: [tom17] by joe97 Sep 12, 2008 (7:29 pm)
Replying to: tom17 (Sep 12, 2008 6:45 pm) If the GS350 is $10,000 more, most of that will be eaten up by the difference in the dealer discounts. I know for a fact the GS350 can be had for a $7,000 discount off MSRP. If you replaced that with a Hyundai, I'd bet a much different tone woud be spoken for. Steep discounts of a Lexus vehicle, for example, would get few criticism, bashing, or become the subject of a joke. Actually the Genesis 3.8 is rated 18/27 and the GS350 is rated 19/27. I think the OP said regular gas so I would call this one even FWIW, the mere weight of the Genesis, its fuel economy in both the 6 and the 8 has to be well-respected. Fuel-efficiency was never Hyundai's forte, and while still average, they are catching up super-fast, with several models in the fleet grabbing the lead pack in its respective classes - the Genesis being one, another I can think of right now is the Sonata, which I believe is higher than both Accord and Camry. Replies to this message: satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:08 am) joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 3:24 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:13 am) joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 3:31 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 5:46 pm) and 5 more...
#101 of 152 Re: [joe97] by satyarg Sep 13, 2008 (4:08 am)
Replying to: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:29 pm) another I can think of right now is the Sonata, which I believe is higher than both Accord and Camry. would you explain, why is it a distant fifth in sales compared to a camry/ accord/altima/malibu even in this age of soaring gas prices? its clear that buyers are looking for something else or you are missing to understand something Replies to this message: joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 3:24 pm)
#102 of 152 Re: [joe97] by satyarg Sep 13, 2008 (4:13 am)
Replying to: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:29 pm) If the GS350 is $10,000 more, most of that will be eaten up by the difference in the dealer discounts. I know for a fact the GS350 can be had for a $7,000 discount off MSRP. In my earlier post I even gave the name of the dealership which is selling the genesis for around $ 30000.00.. you can never have GS 350 even with any discounts around that price range. makes me wonder if you even own one Replies to this message: joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 3:31 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 5:46 pm) adamjmank (Sep 13, 2008 6:23 pm) and 1 more... joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 8:11 pm) and 2 more...
#103 of 152 Re: [joe97] by satyarg Sep 13, 2008 (4:22 am)
Replying to: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:20 pm) Hyundai themselves is comparing the Genesis to a Porsche Boxter. Only in 0-60, which was independently tested. The Boxster had a weight advantage of over a ton, and still came in almost a second slower - should note Genesis does have the power advantage but still. I believe they also did a test with the 750i, with the Genesis finishing ahead. LOL so whats next a HOTROD Hyundai can aspire what ever it wants to be. The ADS are still a Joke. No porshe Boxter buyer let alone a 750i buyer will ever consider it - right now. May be after 10-20 years of if anything changes Replies to this message: jeffreid (Sep 13, 2008 2:08 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 5:55 pm) joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 8:41 pm) and 10 more... jeffreid (Sep 15, 2008 11:26 am) and 4 more...
#104 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by carolinabob Sep 13, 2008 (12:17 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 11:45 am) I don't base my decision on only one feature, but on several. I just responded to an earlier question.
#105 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by carolinabob Sep 13, 2008 (12:20 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 12:04 pm) Price is NEVER my primary concern, but rather how well I like the car and what it has to offer. That is why I got an Azera instead of a Lexus ES or Acura TL or Infiniti G35. BTW, the ES is too much like a Camry.
#106 of 152 Re: [tom17] by carolinabob Sep 13, 2008 (12:34 pm)
Replying to: tom17 (Sep 12, 2008 6:45 pm) Lexus dealers around here offer no more than $1,500 off the GS models. BTW, the GS is rated low by Consumer Reports (04/08) and Motor Trend (09/08). Re: Genesis, MT said "Lexus should be worried, truly." And I don't think they were referring to the ES series. They gave GS 2 stars, Azera 3 and Genesis 3.5. I came close to getting an Acura RL and if had to replace my car right now, probably would be it - if price is right. Only about 6,000 were sold last year. Has never done well, small, AWD doesn't really do a lot, poor MPG, competitors are generally better equipped. It is a nice car, but just not quite there for the top of the line Acura.