Article Comments - 2009 Hyundai Genesis vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350

152 messages, Last post on Jun 06, 2009 at 1:45 PM

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Comparison Test: 2009 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350 - Hyundai isn't shy about its targets for the Genesis. "While Genesis will compete for customers with cars like Lexus ES, Chrysler 300 and Cadillac CTS," the company stated in a press release about the car's pricing, "Genesis' performance capabilities and luxury features are comparable to sedans costing tens of thousands of dollars more." (more)

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#88 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by tayl0rd Sep 12, 2008 (8:49 am)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 7:31 am) ... It really says displacement... So do these: Engine - Displacement - Cubic Inches 214.7 Engine - Displacement - Cubic Centimeters 3518 Engine - Displacement - Bore [in] 3.78 Engine - Displacement - Stroke [in] 3.19 And now that I look at it, he had to have intentionally chosen the wrong thing just to be funny. He has to be pulling our legs! Otherwise, why would he bother to pick the bore and not the stroke? Good one, satyrag! You had us going!!
#89 of 152 Re: [tom17] by carolinabob Sep 12, 2008 (10:05 am)
Replying to: tom17 (Sep 11, 2008 6:09 pm) I compare Prem. Pkg Genesis to GS 350 RWD without technology packages on either one. I am not interested in navigation. Genesis: better MPG w/ reg. fuel, much larger trunk, larger inside and outside, more airbags? and does not feel as confining as the GS. Of course, the $10,000 money savings helps. GS does have DRL's and ventilated seats. I am hopeful that Hyundai will move some of the features on the 4.6 down to the 3.8 Prem. Pkg soon. Interestingly, the Lincoln MKS is larger, has more interior space and is about the only luxury car that has a folding rear seat and it splits the difference in price I used Edmunds comparison feature and the actual brochures for the cars to determine what they have. Replies to this message: tayl0rd (Sep 12, 2008 11:39 am) adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 11:45 am) carolinabob (Sep 13, 2008 12:17 pm) adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 12:04 pm) joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 3:56 pm) adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm) and 22 more... carolinabob (Sep 13, 2008 12:20 pm) tom17 (Sep 12, 2008 6:45 pm) joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:29 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:08 am) and 1 more... satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:13 am) and 7 more... carolinabob (Sep 13, 2008 12:34 pm)
#90 of 152 Re: [carolinabob] by tayl0rd Sep 12, 2008 (11:39 am)
Replying to: carolinabob (Sep 12, 2008 10:05 am) ... Interestingly, the Lincoln MKS is larger, has more interior space and is about the only luxury car that has a folding rear seat and it splits the difference in price ... But it's FWD.
#91 of 152 Re: [carolinabob] by adamjmank Sep 12, 2008 (11:45 am)
Replying to: carolinabob (Sep 12, 2008 10:05 am) I wouldn't think someone buying a Luxury car a GS for instance shelling $ 50 k would be overtly worried about what type of gas or how many miles it runs on a gallon. that would be a priority but not the No.1 for these buyers Replies to this message: carolinabob (Sep 13, 2008 12:17 pm)
#92 of 152 Re: [carolinabob] by adamjmank Sep 12, 2008 (12:04 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Sep 12, 2008 10:05 am) Buyers who pick the GS pick it for reasons of their own, which I wouldn't want to mention ( might irritate some one) Lexus buyers for instance have another option in the ES which fully loaded is cheaper than the GS will ever be. More over it feels roomier. However they still buy a GS it is these buyers who will probably look at other similar brands in the same segment viz. a Beemer 5 series/Beemer M/SLK/E/RL etc and not a Hyundai Genesis. My point is for most buyers in this segment do not look at how much they save on an initial purchase vehicle. that more Car for less money and miles/gallon is the for the buyers of a Camry/Accord/Avalon/Genesis/ maxima/300 buyers - probably the Genesis fits better in that market Replies to this message: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 3:56 pm) adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm) tom17 (Sep 12, 2008 6:49 pm) and 20 more... joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:13 pm) carolinabob (Sep 13, 2008 12:20 pm)
#93 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by joe97 Sep 12, 2008 (1:13 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 7:31 am) What he posted isn't wrong but how he interpreted the data is very misleading. One cm does not equal one in. but he's using that exactly logic to claim somehow the 3.5L has the same displacment as a 3.8L. Read tayl0rd's post, he has in more details.
#94 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by joe97 Sep 12, 2008 (3:56 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 12:04 pm) While I'd agree w/ you the majority of the luxury buyers probably won't have the Genesis sedan in mind, especially from the German competitors, that doesn't mean there is no one. Actually, in good amounts, as indicated from the number of sales Hyundai has made in the first few months, even without full supply of units. I've also spoken with a good number of owners in this segment, and you'd be surprised to hear how many cross-shopped the Genesis, and those ending up with one. I'd bet you didn't know the Genesis outsold the RL in its very first month, and creeping into GS terriorty, which isn't great in the first place, at least for Toyota standards. The Genesis has already sold more units, a lot more, than the whole run the Phaeton had in the US. PS: what's SLK doing in there? Replies to this message: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm) tom17 (Sep 12, 2008 6:49 pm) joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:20 pm) and 19 more... joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:13 pm)
#95 of 152 Re: [joe97] by adamjmank Sep 12, 2008 (5:37 pm)
Replying to: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 3:56 pm) Well shouldn't the sales of genesis be compared with the sales of sedans in its price range. Than comparing with an RL which is priced way above. I for sure know an RL's Nav touch screen is far superior to any in its class Its like comparing the sales of Accord with an LS because it is full size sedan in 09 Replies to this message: tom17 (Sep 12, 2008 6:49 pm) joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:20 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:22 am) and 18 more... joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:13 pm)
#96 of 152 Re: [carolinabob] by tom17 Sep 12, 2008 (6:45 pm)
Replying to: carolinabob (Sep 12, 2008 10:05 am) Genesis: better MPG w/ reg. fuel, much larger trunk, larger inside and outside, more airbags? and does not feel as confining as the GS. Of course, the $10,000 money savings helps. Actually the Genesis 3.8 is rated 18/27 and the GS350 is rated 19/27. I will admit the Genesis is a much larger car. If the GS350 is $10,000 more, most of that will be eaten up by the difference in the dealer discounts. I know for a fact the GS350 can be had for a $7,000 discount off MSRP. Just looked up the MPG at www.Carsdirect.com. They get $2,763 over MSRP for the Premium package which you are interested in. That is $9,763 of your $10,000 difference !!! Replies to this message: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:29 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:08 am) joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 3:24 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:13 am) joe97 (Sep 13, 2008 3:31 pm) and 6 more... carolinabob (Sep 13, 2008 12:34 pm)
#97 of 152 Re: [adamjmank] by tom17 Sep 12, 2008 (6:49 pm)
Replying to: adamjmank (Sep 12, 2008 5:37 pm) Well shouldn't the sales of genesis be compared with the sales of sedans in its price range. Than comparing with an RL which is priced way above. Hyundai themselves is comparing the Genesis to a Porsche Boxter. The previous comparison of the Sonata to a Camry & Accord is night and day closer than comparing a 4 door sedan to a 2 door converible. At least the RL is a 4 door luxury sedan. Replies to this message: joe97 (Sep 12, 2008 7:20 pm) satyarg (Sep 13, 2008 4:22 am) jeffreid (Sep 13, 2008 2:08 pm) and 17 more...