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Article Comments - 2009 Hyundai Genesis vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350

152 messages,  Last post on Jun 06, 2009 at 1:45 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Genesis, Lexus GS 350, Car Comparisons, Sedan

Comparison Test: 2009 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350 - Hyundai isn't shy about its targets for the Genesis. "While Genesis will compete for customers with cars like Lexus ES, Chrysler 300 and Cadillac CTS," the company stated in a press release about the car's pricing, "Genesis' performance capabilities and luxury features are comparable to sedans costing tens of thousands of dollars more." (more)


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Re: [joe97] by tayl0rd
Sep 11, 2008 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Sep 10, 2008 7:49 pm)

It is false. The Chrysler 300 has never had a 3.8L engine. It's a 3.5 or 2.7 (in the V6s.)
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Re: [satyarg] by jeffreid
Sep 11, 2008 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 10, 2008 7:04 pm)

I'm glad you enjoyed your laugh, however it was you that set forth the comparison criteria, not me.
 
I was simply putting some hard numbers to your off the cuff remarks. I'm sorry that you feel the need to justify your Lexus purchase by putting down another model that it competes with. Most of the products that Lexus puts out are very fine autos on their own merit.
 
A badge does not mean superiority however. I would also like to take a stab here that you have never been in or driven a Genesis. If that is true it sure makes it hard to give much credit to your ramblings.
 
Anyway, again, enjoy your Lexus. I'm sure it is a fine automobile. But really, what is the point of trashing a product that you know nothing about?
 
One last thing. If you had ever been in both a Genesis and a 300, you would know what a poor comparison they really are. The Genesis is head and shoulders above the 300 in terms of interior appointments and ride/quiet. The Genesis is much more like a, um, let me see here, oh yeah, a Lexus.
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Re: [tayl0rd] by satyarg
Sep 11, 2008 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 11, 2008 4:53 am)

you are right , the model i compared has a 3.5 engine.
Its the engine displacements which are identical 3.78 in C300 vs 3.8 in the hyundai's
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Re: [satyarg] by tayl0rd
Sep 11, 2008 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 11, 2008 6:31 am)

That's still wrong information. I used to have a 300M and the 3.5L V6 does not have 3.78 liters displacement. You're thinking of the 2.7; otherwise, why wouldn't Chrysler have just referenced it as 3.8 liters?? No manufacturer is going to round down their engine sizes. Chrysler does have a 3.8 in it's minivans and some other vehicles, but NOT in the 300.
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Re: [tayl0rd] by satyarg
Sep 11, 2008 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: tayl0rd (Sep 11, 2008 8:57 am)

I just mentioned what they have on their website
 
Please Refer to the Chrysler 300 Page with Tech Specs on their updated Site with current info.- select Signature Series
Engine - Displacement - Bore [in] 3.78 (signature series RWD aka 3.5)
 
Linky .http://www-5.chrysler.com/vehsuite/VehicleCompare.jsp
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Re: [satyarg] by tayl0rd
Sep 11, 2008 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 11, 2008 10:53 am)

Still wrong. That bore info means the cylinder diameter is 3.78" wide.
 
After trekking through that site, here's some info that might help you:
Engine - Displacement - Cubic Inches 214.7
Engine - Displacement - Cubic Centimeters 3518
 
Translates to 3.518 liters.
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by satyarg
Sep 11, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Didnt I mention This in my prior Post
 
"you are right , the model i compared has a 3.5 engine.
Its the engine displacements which are identical 3.78 in C300 vs 3.8 in the hyundai's"
 
I wonder If you even Read This
 
I mentioned clearly the word "Displacement"
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Re: [joe97] by satyarg
Sep 11, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: joe97 (Sep 10, 2008 7:48 pm)

Did you even read what Jeff wrote in his post? By the way, discounts are hard to come by on the Genesis, at least currently in most places and for Hyundai standards. Actually, most of the luxury cars right now have HUGE discounts and special financing rates, 5-7K in this class (mid-to-large luxury sedan) is easy to find
  
While you may think Genesis vs. Lexus comparo is unrealistic, others share different opinions. Edmunds certainly thought the Genesis was a worthy competitor, as has other professionals and consumers.

 
May be discounts were hard to come earlier.
 
I was quoted 30,975.00 even before I negotiated for a 3.8 model with 27 miles on it.
by gregory Auto/ Hyland Park, IL.
Thats on a 2009 model before negotiations with Destination included.
 
I wonder how much value it holds after two years
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Re: [jeffreid] by satyarg
Sep 11, 2008 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: jeffreid (Sep 11, 2008 6:01 am)

A badge does not mean superiority however. I would also like to take a stab here that you have never been in or driven a Genesis. If that is true it sure makes it hard to give much credit to your ramblings.
 
Thanks for Taking a Stab at me
I did drive test drive one and was impressed with the interior and curvy Dash ( although It resembled a subaru tribeca - Which I find is well executed) with lots of standard equipment to list.
Test Driving it on the Highway I felt it was roomy, as big and as hard to corner as an Avalon or an LS.( definitely roomier than a GS)- may be will see them replace Lincolns as a the no 1 choice of limo companies at that price.
 
Lane changing was like tossing a Van around although it had excellent visibility.
 
However I miss the refinement of shifts on the GS and the fast cornering feel. ( even on the GS i feel short changed when compared to a 5 series in cornering ability)
 
What more the front looks a cross between a Merc with Avalon lights and the rear a resembles Beemer to me.
 
would I drive a car without Identity- No
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Re: [satyarg] by pat HOST
Sep 11, 2008 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 11, 2008 11:48 am)

"...take a stab here" means taking a guess at. It wasn't a "stab" at you personally.

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