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Article Comments - 2009 Hyundai Genesis vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350

152 messages,  Last post on Jun 06, 2009 at 2:45 PM

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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Genesis, Lexus GS 350, Car Comparisons, Sedan

Comparison Test: 2009 Hyundai Genesis 4.6 vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350 - Hyundai isn't shy about its targets for the Genesis. "While Genesis will compete for customers with cars like Lexus ES, Chrysler 300 and Cadillac CTS," the company stated in a press release about the car's pricing, "Genesis' performance capabilities and luxury features are comparable to sedans costing tens of thousands of dollars more." (more)


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Re: Article Comments - 2009 Hyundai Genesis vs. 2008 Lexus GS 350 [tom17] by joe97
Aug 31, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: tom17 (Aug 31, 2008 7:02 am)

Most of the people I know who make $80K - $100K can only afford used cars
 
Don't take this the wrong way as I am being most sincere:
 
If I was in this situation, I would seriously sit myself down and look at my personal finances. People making half as much can afford a new Sonata/Santa Fe (examples from your post).
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Re: Terrible comparison [joe97] by jeffreid
Aug 31, 2008 (12:35 pm)
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Replying to: joe97 (Aug 31, 2008 7:54 am)

Another side of this discussion is that there are a good number of people in the world that DO finance automobiles.
 
And a large number of the people that finance these autos DO consider what their monthly payment is going to be.
 
When you take a look at the monthly payment on $15000-$25000 extra dollars, you have to consider that there are some people who get priced out of the M-B, Lexus, BMW equation.
 
The Genesis gives a large number of people the opportunity to own an auto that DOES offer most of the style, lux, and performance of the "upper tier" brands at a price/payment they can afford.
 
One other thought. If you pay cash for a car, then you are putting that money into a depreciating asset. Every day and every mile that goes by you are throwing cash out the window. If you finance your car at a rate that is less than or equal to what you can draw at market, you are coming out even or ahead on your cash. Then at the end of the term you have your paid for car as an asset, plus the cash that you kept in the bank. Just a thought.
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by ksmigel
Sep 01, 2008 (10:25 pm)
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Don't forget that just looking at the upfront price of a car when purchasing new or used is not an intelligent method of determining whether you truly are purchasing relative 'value.'
 
Often, the buyer who pays more upfront is making the rational decision if the car has a higher residual value.
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by satyarg
Sep 10, 2008 (12:39 pm)
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This whole thing comparing a Hyundai ( XXXXXXX) with Lexus (XX) is absurd in a lexus Forum.
They do not even look similar in Size , Weight , Style or Price.
Both cater to different Markets.
All Hyundai did was benchmark it against Lexus.
Its good to see other Manufacturers aim at the Lexus so the end up atleast better than where they are now or fall in between.
 
My 2 cents
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Re: [satyarg] by jeffreid
Sep 10, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 10, 2008 12:39 pm)

Just my 2 cents.
 
A GS350 weighs 3795 lbs.
A 3.8L Genesis weighs 3748 lbs.
 
A GS350 is 190in long
A Genesis is 195.9in long
 
A GS350 has a 112.2 in wheelbase
A Genesis has a 115.6 in wheelbase
 
So, size and weight seem to be pretty similar. Just a thought. Also, if most of the performance, build quality, and luxury are comprable, why is it a bad thing that the Genesis costs less?
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Re: [satyarg] by joe97
Sep 10, 2008 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 10, 2008 12:39 pm)

in a lexus Forum
 
This thread isn't in a Lexus exclusive forum. This is a shared thread located between Hyundai Genesis and Lexus GS forum, as it is so titled Lexus GS vs. Hyundai Genesis. It can also be located from a few other areas.
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Re: [jeffreid] by satyarg
Sep 10, 2008 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: jeffreid (Sep 10, 2008 3:25 pm)

Lol
 
If that's the basis of comparison , I think the Hyundai (XXXXXXX) has more similarities with the other 300 , More over they have similar pricing and dicounts( cash backs)
 
A 3.8L Genesis weighs 3748 lbs.
A Chrysler 300 Signature Series 3762 Lbs
 
A Genesis is 195.9in long
A Chrysler 300 Signature Series 196.8
 
A Genesis has a 115.6 in wheelbase
A Chrysler 300 Signature Series 120.00
 
A Genesis 3.8 MSRP $32250.00
A Chrysler 300 Signature Series $ 32765.00
 
A Genesis 3.8 Passenger Volume 109..4 Cu.ft
A Chrysler 300 Signature Series Passenger Volume 106.6 Cu.ft
 
even the caravan has a wheel base of 121 and overall length of 202
 
doesn't this whole comparison sound unrealistic.
Lets not compare apples with oranges just for the sake of comparison
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Re: [jeffreid] by satyarg
Sep 10, 2008 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: jeffreid (Sep 10, 2008 3:25 pm)

Not to forget the Chrysler 300 and the hyundai both have a 3.8 engine
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Re: [satyarg] by joe97
Sep 10, 2008 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 10, 2008 8:04 pm)

Did you even read what Jeff wrote in his post? By the way, discounts are hard to come by on the Genesis, at least currently in most places and for Hyundai standards. Actually, most of the luxury cars right now have HUGE discounts and special financing rates, 5-7K in this class (mid-to-large luxury sedan) is easy to find.
 
While you may think Genesis vs. Lexus comparo is unrealistic, others share different opinions. Edmunds certainly thought the Genesis was a worthy competitor, as has other professionals and consumers.
 
Enjoy your Lexus.
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Re: [satyarg] by joe97
Sep 10, 2008 (8:49 pm)
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Replying to: satyarg (Sep 10, 2008 8:07 pm)

Not to forget the Chrysler 300 and the hyundai both have a 3.8 engine
 
Really? Last I checked, that is false.

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