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#20 of 29 Re: Why does PZEV increase hp and mpg? [p0926] by robsis Sep 21, 2008 (3:50 pm)
Replying to: p0926 (Sep 19, 2008 10:47 am) Thnx for the link!   My wife and I just bought an '09 Legacy PZEV. We do notice a slight difference in warm-up to her older non-PZEV Forester with the same 2.5L engine; however, once warmed up, there appears to be no difference in idle at all. Performance seems on par or slightly better in the new vehicle, which I would expect. As to mileage, can't say since we are comparing two different vehicles (Legacy vs. Forester); however, the new car already does get better mileage than the older one...   Robert   PS: We already are getting comments about the 'green leaf' PZEV badge on the back (we live in AZ, where it is not required) and people seem pleased that Subie would offer this as an option here in our state...it also makes us feel that we are contributing, if only somewhat, to cleaner air.
#21 of 29 Re: PZEV Forester 2.5X after 3 Weeks [rich505] by ateixeira Sep 23, 2008 (8:08 am)
Replying to: rich505 (Sep 19, 2008 5:35 am) Ours does not ping so I'd have that checked out. We use 87 octane only.
#22 of 29 Re: PZEV Forester 2.5X after 3 Weeks [ron106] by rich505 Sep 26, 2008 (1:34 pm)
Replying to: ron106 (Sep 19, 2008 8:10 am) Yes, I only use 87 octane.   I called Subaru Corporate Customer Service. Waste of time. The customer service person said all they do when an owner calls with service, operation, mechanical concerns is for Subaru to call the dealer's service manager. I made an appointment for next week to bring it in so that not only can the service writer drive with me but also the service manager.   Subaru apparently doesn't have a system for logging problems, they rely on the local dealers. Replies to this message: p0926 (Sep 26, 2008 9:01 pm)
#23 of 29 PZEV by rich505 Sep 26, 2008 (1:36 pm)
From what I understand you may not have a choice about PZEV depending on where you live. Here in the more populated areas of the North East they only sell PZEVs now.
#24 of 29 Re: PZEV Forester 2.5X after 3 Weeks [rich505] by p0926 Sep 26, 2008 (9:01 pm)
Replying to: rich505 (Sep 26, 2008 1:34 pm) I called Subaru Corporate Customer Service. Waste of time. Subaru apparently doesn't have a system for logging problems, they rely on the local dealers.   Actually, your issue was logged (as are all calls). Subaru (like all manufacturers) wants to resolve any problem at the lowest level, hence the reason they referred you to the local dealer. However, if the dealer is unable to resolve your problem, it will be escalated to the district/regional level and then finally to corporate if necessary.   -Frank
#25 of 29 Out of State Purchase for NJ Resident by connieylee Oct 12, 2008 (10:53 am)
I'm a little confused about the PZEV cars. I know NJ only makes PZEV cars, but if I decide to purchase out of state, do I HAVE to buy a car that's PZEV if I'm registering it in NJ?   Thanks for the help - my internet research has not been helpful! Replies to this message: bigfrank3 (Oct 13, 2008 8:20 am)
#26 of 29 Re: Out of State Purchase for NJ Resident [connieylee] by bigfrank3 Oct 13, 2008 (8:20 am)
Replying to: connieylee (Oct 12, 2008 10:53 am) Here in Mass. we also have PZEV certification, and I can tell you that you cannot get a non-PZEV vehicle registered in this state. We have had the Calif. emission certification for a number of years and this has been true for every brand. Early on you had the option of bringing the vehicle up to Mass. standards but this would be too complex and cost prohibitive nowadays.   If you check with one of your emission testing facilities I bet it is the same in NJ.
#27 of 29 Finally some INFO from Subaru on this! by cjgruhl Oct 13, 2008 (2:10 pm)
http://drive.subaru.com/Fall08/Fall08_whatmakes.htm Replies to this message: ateixeira (Oct 14, 2008 10:32 am) connieylee (Oct 14, 2008 3:34 pm)
#28 of 29 Re: Finally some INFO from Subaru on this! [cjgruhl] by ateixeira Oct 14, 2008 (10:32 am)
Replying to: cjgruhl (Oct 13, 2008 2:10 pm) I saw that, too. Very timely.
#29 of 29 Re: Finally some INFO from Subaru on this! [cjgruhl] by connieylee Oct 14, 2008 (3:34 pm)
Replying to: cjgruhl (Oct 13, 2008 2:10 pm) Thank you SO MUCH for posting this. I'm in NJ and asked the Subaru dealer about the PZEV warranty and he said "Warranty? There's no warranty for that." I knew there was one but just didn't know if it was applicable in NJ until now.   Now, if only the dealers had any clue....

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